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>Our legal system isn’t ready for machines that act on their own.

Like a Tesla in FSD mode, the driver is and should always be held responsible for the car's actions.

The companies the push code that breaks the law should, as well, always be held responsible.

This really isn't that hard we just have to wade through all the pollyannas that make this challenging.


> reified intelligence on a chip almost too cheap to meter, available to everyone across the world - not just rich West.

I think this is quite the pollyannaish perspective and very much inline with those that think if you can take, then take and only apologize when caught.


It's not a perspective, it's a literal fact.

We won't get anywhere in these discussion if good chunk of participants cannot admit to the trivially observable facts about the actual objective reality in which they live in.


After reading the article, the title doesn't seem all that off and definitely nothing to be a pedant about.

I wonder why we don't hear of other frontier labs experiencing these "break outs".

Is it that they're orchestrated? Do these labs lack fundamental safety guidelines in their sandboxes as opposed to their peers? Is it another version of hype-filled fear mongering?

Maybe LLM companies need regulation but it's becoming obvious that those screaming the loudest for it are the only ones I see deserving of it.


Anthropic and Alibaba did.

I was lumping Anthropic in there with OpenAI but I didn't know about Alibaba (or Google and Deepseek for that matter).

So it would appear poor security for one.


Poor security yes, but complacency was the most likely reason. When you're used to models not breaking out, and people trying to break in, that's what you watch for.

The more he talks the less seriously I take him.

He talks too much and as a result it's looked like pre-IPO hype and disingenuous because if he believed what he says then he'd stop.

Now, someone is going to say but the investors and obligation to be first; and I would say exactly. The cynicism is well deserved and I think people are tired of what could be suggested is your group think take often called the status quo.


??? I bet investors are extremely happy that anthropic pledged to give an outside company full access to their IP, in order to slow down their own iteration speed. Investors looooove oversight for a company they invest in. I wonder why no other company does stuff like this

> disingenuous because if he believed what he says then he'd stop.

Why do you think so?


Because I find the cognitive dissonance of saying it's dangerous while flying as fast as possible to an IPO too much to take. I just don't understand how others parse this differently.

So you're saying that if Dario truly thought what he says he does, he'd resign/dissolve the company somehow/unilaterally slow down? I see two problems with this:

First, Dario thinks that OpenAI will continue racing even if he stops, so there is, by his values, no point in stopping. Do you disagree with this, and think he should stop anyway?

Second, what's your take on, for example, Jacob Coxon, who did resign from Anthropic a few days ago after realizing they aren't being responsible? Do you agree that he, at least, does believe in AI risk?


I get it. I do. I just believe we live in a world where our corporate leaders speak out of both sides of their mouths. And typically, people who get to these positions are not the Jacob Coxon's of the world.

That is to say, I've been places where I tried really hard within teams to change certain things that I thought were broken only to find out that what the leadership said and how they acted were divorced from my and many others experiences. And so I did leave in those instances (and please read this not as I didn't get my way but total dysfunction behind beautiful facades).

So, I do think if he really felt as he felt he'd do something different than ultimately yelling "somebody stop me!".


Just to be clear, everything is political - whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

There's a far cry between someone showing off some weird contraption they hacked together versus posting about the Houthi's military campaign. If you can't see that, then I'm not sure what else to say.

What you're suggesting is that it's a spectrum and I agree. I don't know what to tell you.

“political” has a meaning, and it’s not “everything”.

Words mean things.


Totally, but I didn't say political means everything I said everything is political, which means anything a human does to any extent, tacitly or otherwise, is embedded in a power structure.

Whoa. That's not at all what they said and shows you lack intellectual honesty.

That's what a lot of American companies say.

Wait until you hear about Amazon's practices.


Sorry, but the notion that creative writing and robotaxi's exist as proof of anything is like saying my child can drive and write; and while true, the measure of that ability is not at the level of the best humans. It's average at best.


All of the early data shows that self-driving cars from Waymo are safer than the average attentive driver. This is not the average driver, since of the 36,000 deaths a year from accidents in the US, about 12,000 of them are due to alcohol or impaired driving.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2026/the-safety-data-on-autonom...

As for writing: AI is not nearly as good as the average professional writer, but they are definitely better than the average citizen of the United States, considering that 21% of adults are not functionally literate in the US. AI has no problem writing at the undergrad level.


Safer going under 35 mph


So you've never tried FSD.


The one that requires full-attention from the driver? No.


Depends what your definitions of "requires" and "full" are. On mine there's some nagging on the scale of once every tens to hundreds of seconds if it thinks I'm not paying attention. You're willingly living a more stressful and unsafe life if you're still manually driving your car in 2026.


Sounds less stressful.


sounds about right


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