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I found it a fun way to ask for email and actually signed up myself.


Any scam could be defended this way. What does differentiate a scam from a legit investment ?

Most cryptocurrencies are cartoon characters particularly tailored for gambling machines. I haven't seen a single use case other than enabling masses enter a massive pyramid scheme constantly manipulated in social media.


> What does differentiate a scam from a legit investment ?

that the reason someone might pay you more in the future must be "legitimate" - that is the asset can be independently valued to be worth more in the future.

Investment in shares is not a scam (mostly), even if they _never_ pay a dividend, as long as they earn a profit. Investment in gold, however, can be likened to a scam, as the value of gold only grows to as speculation, and not wealth creation.

Hard to say whether cryptos behaves as gold, as some crypto does have uses beyond being sold to someone else for a higher price.


> Hard to say whether cryptos behaves as gold, as some crypto does have uses beyond being sold to someone else for a higher price.

Well, gold has numerous uses in the real world. https://geology.com/minerals/gold/uses-of-gold.shtml


Hey - while I agree with you, for a project making the very first baby steps, I have to be hyper-intentional about the way I spend my energy.

So now, I'm looking for only the very specific people who wants to be in close loop with me, helping me build a feedback loop from early on.

I built projects differently in past, now just want to try another way to start it.

(Also see my other comment - this project is actually a radically open about even its business plan :) It's just not linked to the homepage, for the reason I've explained. )


Appreciate the response! Don't mean to make any claims about the legitimacy of the project- I'm sure your intentions are good.

Think I'd recommend a different title next time better indicating the current state. That and maybe replace the whitepaper link with a direct link to the github as it's a frustrating flow to open a PDF to see it's behind a signup wall.


Edit: giving it a second thought, I've updated the document and the dialogs to give more information and also tell the reason why I'd like a contact before.

Hey - there is actually quite amount of information available in Github, from working prototype to, even the whole business plan is open in Github if you try to find it, not linked to the homepage though.

I'm building up a closed private beta community by onboarding each person.

So now, I'm particularly looking for people who is willing to help a project from the baby steps by being in the beta program, even without knowing much about it.


How does anyone know they're motivated to help a baby project if they can't easily find any info about the project?

This approach to building an audience and community makes no sense and is not respectful of users' time.


If you’re like myself, somebody proactively looking for it, you won’t think twice to share your contact, because you’d like to be an early adopter, close to the project’s execution loop. I’m basically looking for people like myself.

And if you’re skeptical, you’ll find my Github and the full whitepaper is already there.


This is a landing page that tells no more than the purpose for a specific audience. If you feel like it's not what you want, you're not the audience.

I collected extremely valuable feedback already thanks to these links.

Have a great week.


It is very much what I want. But identifying wants - in only single words - without saying anything about how they will be met is not a good trade for my personal info. I am not asking for much.


Got it, you're hesitant to share your name and email and you're not forced for that. Instead of joining the private beta, you can just wait until it's public.

Every project needs some early adopters. That's what I'm seeking here.


You seem to be deliberately missing the point. I'd cheerfully give you my contact info and be an early adopter, but all you have shown is the contents page of a whitepaper.

  Introduction 3
  Product Focus 3
  Productivity 3
  Redesign 3
  Security 5
  Privacy 6
  Search 7
  See it in action 7
  Market 8
  The Terrible Idea 8
  The Bloody Market 8
  The Fragile Giant 8
  The Opportunity 9
  The Audience 10
  Strategy 10
  Previous Strategy (Failure) 10
  Next Strategy 10
  Growth 11
  A. Search 11
  B. Privacy 11
  C. Request access 11
  D. Request access 11
  E. Security 11
  F. Request access 12
  Revenue 12
  Model 1. Request access 12
  Model 2. Request access 12
  Model 3. Request access 13
  Model 4. Delay 13
  Development Progress 13
  Team 13
  Venture Status 14
These are just buzzwords. In the time you've taken replying in this thread, you could have written three or four sentences summarizing what your product will do differently. If you care so much about my privacy and security, what exactly are you offering in return for my contact information?

It's like if I offer you Luxury, precision, style, value. NewThing is the product for high achievers who demand the best. Apply now for exclusive preview and priority access. I too can conjure up a list of desirable qualities and leverage FOMO. Make me a value proposition instead of trying to leverage my emotions alone.


I don't want your personal information, you're not in the audience I target, and that's ok.


So the audience you target is people who want a privacy-focused web browser, yet freely give their personal information to people who claim to not want their personal information?


That's some impressive circular logic. I guess this product must be really good looking since it's so hard to see.


Please don't pile on. You had a good original point to make but you didn't have to be so aggressive, and certainly you shouldn't have turned nasty, even if you don't agree with how someone is approaching their project.

I realize that you were trying to be helpful but this isn't helpful.


Signal (messenger, not foundation)’s plan for cryptocurrency was in news 4 years ago already. It can feel like a betrayal but can we put others responsible others for our feelings?

How can we expect a company to provide us what we want for free? Robots running on solar power will build them?

How about this: stop approaching a monetization problem as if it's a choice being evil vs. not evil.


Signal is a not-for-profit organization.


Edited my comment for clarity


Here is devil’s advocate ready to be voted down:

People get tortured and executed for not sharing information, or actually not having any information in countries in the middle east. They wouldn’t hesitate erasing a family all together from the planet if they don’t share information.

And here is FBI, pressuring to get information.

Of course, western democracy is supposed to be better. It is better though.

And that’s really the best it could be.


This article sounds almost like an advertise to me for some reason. May be I'm biased though, in my household there is no TV or ipads, and my son is strictly not allowed to any of these gadgets.

Here is a really good research on children attention; https://github.com/azer/notebook/blob/master/parenting/child...

There is also a podcast episode about it in the same folder.


On the other side, 10 million kids may never go back to school in the developing countries after pandemic. Probably good for the underground textile shops dressing up the ones who can work from home.

https://www.savethechildren.net/news/almost-10-million-child...


Hotmail was 10x worse than all alternatives. It was an ugly web page, not an app.

Gmail took XMLHttpRequest and its ActiveX fallback (we used to call this “comet”) and proved the world that we can ship a robust app inside a web browser.

It was well designed, had no ugly banners like Hotmail did, it was really fast, simple and working like a desktop app.


For historical context: XMLHttpRequest was invented for outlook web access, so the idea and usecase preceded gmail.


The first time I saw it was in Google's Orkut, their first failed social network. But it did have cool AJAX.


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