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I wonder how common of a problem this will be in the future. The experiment will fail due to improper setup, the human will at best glance over the logs and declare victory, and everyone just believes.


How does it help equalise, if the commodity is sold "at market value" by the richest, and all intellectual input is immediately fed back into the tool. Looks at best like a weapon to supress


Imagine two bright high school students. One goes to a tony private school taught by people with PhDs; the other is in a developing country. They both want to understand, say, Morse theory. In a world without AI, only the former has access to knowledge about it. In a world with AI, the kid in a developing country can access the knowledge roughly as easily. Even if they were paying for tokens, but free tier models provide an absolute equality.


How do we know free tier models will continue to provide adequate services? They are pretty good right now, but only because all big players are happy to burn enormous amounts of money.


How is it an equalising force if the commodity is sold at "market value"? This will just lead to more wealth concentration, no?


you are conflating equity and equality. its equalising in the sense that it democratises access to data, knowledge. but that does not mean it will end up with everyone being equal in terms of wealth.


But it won't even do that. In the pursuit of extracting maximal capital, better models with "better" knowledge will be gated behind higher prices. If you pay more, you get more.


Hello, could you please put your over-sensationalized, overly-long, AI-generated comments somewhere else? Thank you.

Kindly, the HN Community.


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I find it interesting that you request me to discuss subject matter when your post is intellectually equivalent to: "I generated this sequence of numbers using my pseudo-random number generator"


I find it interesting you still continue with personal attacks without saying nothing of substance. What is wrong factually in the post? Why are you convinced I'm an AI? I also find it interesting that you've just been hostile throughout this entire interaction and still have nothing to add to the actual discussion. Stop the slop.


Alright, here I go.

I don't think you are AI. I merely lament the fact that you found it appropriate to post a clearly LLM generated comment.

The problem with LLM generated comments for me is not their content, but rather their nature. I am not addressing the "actual discussion", as in my personal opinion, there is no "discussion" to be had. The post constitutes an automated response akin to an answering machine (be it much more sophisticated), and I generally do not find discussions with answering machines interesting at all.


That sounds like a you problem. Since you're not interested in discussing anything or finding this to be an actual discussion, I'll stop trying to engage you in good faith anymore, sorry.


Stop posting slop.


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I don't think people should be rude to you, but the comment was AI-generated, right? Lots of people dislike that as it feels kind of wasteful and disrespectful of our time; it can literally take you less time to generate the comment than for us to read it, and the only information you added is whatever was in the (presumably much shorter) prompt. If you'd written it yourself, it may or may not be interesting and correct, but I'd at least know that someone cared enough to write it and all of it made sense from that person's perspective. Sometimes I am interested in an LLM's take on a topic, but not when browsing a forum for humans.


I'm sorry but if you're blaming some text on a website to be "disrespectful of our time", I don't know what to say to you.

I stand behind everything on my comment and I have engaged in good faith with every single reply to it here (even though none of them talk about anything in the comment itself).

Go through my profile, see how I engage with people and tell me again I'm AI.

If you do not have anything to say to the subject matter of a comment and just have personal snide remarks, I do think it's a waste of your time but do not blame me for it or tell me to leave the platform.

Typing this comment right now is a waste of time for me but I do not feel the need to grandstand over it as if there's a massive opportunity cost to it. I'm a human writing/interacting in a "forum for humans."


I didn't say or think that your account was AI-run, and I didn't tell you to leave the platform. I just tried to explain why your comment might have annoyed people and triggered negative responses (while agreeing that the rude ones were inappropriate).


Sure, cheers then. I don't care about negative responses if they're negative just because they think it's AI-generated, without having to say anything substantial on the actual comment or the article. I have demonstrated my willingness to engage in good faith but those comments have not.

If negative responses have no substance behind it, it makes no sense to care about them or take them seriously.

Also, the fact that you assume it takes more time reading that comment than it took for me to write is pretty weird (I still don't get what was so wrong about the comment that simply reading it is a waste of time to people).


> the fact that you assume it takes more time reading that comment than it took for me to write is pretty weird

I didn't do that either! I had no idea whether you just fired off a quick prompt and pasted the result without even reading it, or spent ages crafting and rereading and revising it, or (most likely) something in between those extremes. I said generated comments can take less time to create than to read, and that's one reason people push back against them. There's a risk that the forum just gets buried in comments that take near-zero effort to 'write' but create non-trivial time/effort/annoyance for those of us wading through them in search of actual human perspectives. And even the relatively good ones will be little different from what we could all obtain from an LLM if we wanted it.

FWIW, I didn't even get to the substance, because I instinctively bounce off LLM-written content posted in human contexts without explanation. You're obviously free not to care about that, and I wouldn't have replied and got into this meta discussion if not for the back-and-forth you were already involved in.

edit: but if you do care about getting through to people like me, even a short manually-written introduction can make me significantly more likely to read the rest of the content. To me, pure LLM output is a pretty strong signal of a bot/low-effort human account. But if someone acknowledges that they're pasting in an AI response and bothers to explain why they think it's interesting and worthwhile, I'll look at it with more of an open mind.


I stand by the comment in its entirety. If formatting is an issue that makes it unreadable for you (to not even get to the substance), I can't help you. I do not care about "getting through" to anyone, I'm a human interacting on a human forum and I responded to the content of the article which was mostly BS about creating AI slop (on top of being a content marketing piece trying to sell people shit using deceptive claims).

But I will defend myself when I'm told obtuse things without any substance backing it.


I'm obviously just annoying you, which really wasn't my goal, so I'll stop here. But I want to note that if you think this all comes down to "formatting", you're still not hearing what I'm trying to say.


A Meal Deal is literally £3.85. What are you talking about?


This is not true. The UK has a £3.85 meal deal that is a sandwich + a snack + a drink. It's hugely popular.

Germany has the Döner Kebab, it's now about 5-9€, but the have cheaper options available too. Again, hugely popular.

I'm sure most European cities have these.


A sandwich, snack or Döner Kebab is not a full nutritional lunch.


I beg your pardon?


Meal deals and Döner Kebab are junk food


Are the $4 lunch bowls full nutritional lunches?


The $4 lunch bowls in Japan are indeed full nutritional lunches.


>junk food

>junk food, Japan


That's a major sticking point, but I am yak-shaving so hard that I ended up in a complete re-build of the static site generator and am currently in the middle of that... RSS hopefully coming in a few months once I find time to finish that process.


I honestly don't trust it for conflict resolution. I keep data that is edited in multiple places, potentially simultaneously off of it and use git instead. I've had one minor incident with corruption in the last ~year, although I already can't remember the exact circumstances. Large files are no problem at all, I've even streamed movies off of it.


Thanks, but I prefer open stuff (as stated in the article), so I'd rather use something like ollama or similar provider on a consumer-grade graphics card that I can use for other purposes too.

Some feedback on your website: The AI-generated cover image looks really awful, nothing makes sense. And your website makes my laptop sound like it's trying to compile LLVM. Both is a strong turn-off for me at least.


Appreciate the feedback. This is open and could run Linux if you wanted to use a different OS to the one we're building. So it can definitely cover any use case with the GPU.

There are quite a lot of animations so we will work on improving the performance - could you let me know what device and OS the laptop is?


Thanks for sharing! It's a great read, I enjoy the writing style! Found a bunch of cool stuff to look into!


You're welcome, and thank you!


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