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Agreed and sadly I'm not surprised. There are a lot of bad managers out there. But there are a good amount of good ones too.

That's great. I wish there were more of us but I'm glad we still are out there doing the best for our people.

I always found it was. Because I cared more what my employees thought about me than my managers. I wouldn't change that, ever.

Yes I fought for raises. I fought for better ratings and promotions too. If they asked me to cut I would fight to not doing that.

My first loyalty is to my team, and it's been clear to me why I have not rising as high.

Don't assume everyone is like the worst person in your head.


And as a line level manager I don’t believe you are a “bad person”. Line level managers are “powerless”. You don’t control head count, budgets, company wide decisions to reduce staff etc

You've had bad luck. I get it. But good managers like myself exist.

It’s not “bad managers” - it’s “powerless managers”. If you are a line level manager, you don’t control budgets, company wide re-org decisions, or really anything that I care about - which is mainly “how much money do I get in exchange for my labor” and “do I need to come into an office?”. Those are all decisions above your head

I don't expect them to move the world for me. But I don't equate "powerless managers" with "useless managers". If they feel like they do what they can within their means, I'd say that's a good manager.

>really anything that I care about - which is mainly “how much money do I get in exchange for my labor”

That's fair. Though I didn't choose my domain for the reasons you work. So I cared more about managers who felt like they were empathetic and invested their time to help me succeed. Not whoever can have me climb the corporate ladder the fastest.


I think this is too harsh. Generally yes, but there are good people like myself who do care. Yes we are rare but we do exist and more than 'nobody'.

Really great advice. There are some managers out there like myself who do care about your career. It's one reason I got into management- to be different and better than other managers who never think about it.

Conversely GitLab was well positioned to take the space but then went and ruined their opportunity too.

The writing was on the wall when they tried to implement invasive telemetry on users, following an investment offer. They did walk back on it due to community backlash and boycott. But if history has shown us anything, corporate retreat happens only on account of loss of good will and brand value. Once the intent is established, they'll keep looking for other ways to satisfy it. The only difference between that incident and Microsoft's acquisition of GitHub is that the latter was a much louder signal about what was to follow.

How did they do this exactly?

MATE is my primary desktop distro... I hope someone can step up. Unfortunately I don't have the time or skills to help. Not sure what alternative I would have if it ends.

Worst case scenario if Ubuntu MATE is discontinued, you can switch to Linux Mint MATE. AFAIK, Linux Mint MATE does not depend on Ubuntu MATE.

Ahhh good to know. Thanks!

Let's just hope this helps their service and doesn't lead to them making it worse. I love Digital Ocean. The UI and the service itself is great. API is nice too.

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