Vibe coding, like Web3 before it (like Web 2.0 before it, like the dotcom boom before that - what preceded?) - harnesses the kind of focused attention with which gamers hook their brains into portals to virtual worlds - and directs all that bargain-basement wetware compute towards some obscured "real-world" goal instead. (See also: CADT development.)
Hyperscale these very inefficient but very dependable almost-not-efforts, and you beat the more efficient approaches. See also: evolutionary algorithms, autoresearch, price dumping; "attention is all you need", which though a legit piece of mathemagic always sounded to me like a rehash of that old adage, "all you need is love" (pejorative).
Really, "real world" is a consensus; we don't generally observe balamatoms or even balamolecules, we reason in terms of material objects' socially constructed balameanings and interrelations. Therefore, by redirecting sufficient attention to some thing labeled "unrealistic", we can remove that label; by this technique, a sufficiently large collective actor can quite literally, and quite directly, change the world. Without asking anyone, least of all me!
Did it truly take someone else to externalize the mechanics of cognition into a machine for you, for you to become able to notice them and become interested in them?
And then to remain focused on the machine that you see, rather than the machine that you are.
>it's impossible to have an honest conversation about it, because they people who haven't seen an ad or paid for a movie in 20 years go absolutely insane when called out
It's generally not possible to have an honest conversation about something when one side sees the other's honest response as "going absolutely insane" :-)
Well, you're providing a bullshit perspective. And your notion that responses like "I'm not looking for a fight" are appropriate when someone calls out your bullshit, is also a bullshit notion. Let's not get into how spreading bullshit has a meaningful detrimental impact not only on yourself but also on others, how about it?
Could you please stop breaking the site guidelines, such as by posting unsubstantive and/or flamewar comments and/or crossing (as here) into personal attack?
Your account has unfortunately been doing these things repeatedly. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
Obviously these terms are open to interpretation as well as cultural differences, but in terms of how we moderate HN, your GP comment certainly counts as a personal attack. You can't use phrases like "you're providing a bullshit", "someone calls out your bullshit", and so on, when addressing another person on HN.
If you feel that someone's view is mistaken, you're welcome to respond to false information with true information, and bad arguments with better arguments. But please remain personally respectful while doing so.
The reason the power grid exists is because enough people want to do enough of this kind of activity that if we were still burning wood to do it there would be no trees left. Scale does matter, and this kind of 'sustainability' can't sustain a fraction of the people on the planet.
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