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Or psychosomatic.

It's possible she believes that those items all trigger her migraines therefore her body gives her a migraine when she believes she's had one of her triggers.

A big tell would be her getting a migraine and blaming it on "hidden MSG" in a food item that doesn't have it.

Or her not getting migraine from foods that have MSG naturally but is never pointed out. Like tomatoes.


It's funny... reading this thread, I'm reminded of a friend of mine who indeed gets migraines from tomatoes. That was actually what she figured out first; the MSG connection came later.

But they were involved in price fixing lysine. And that was wrong.

A lot of people believe this about themselves, but yes, like you suspect, they don't mean it when it counts.

You don’t have to accept their conclusions, but they don’t have to accept yours either. You can walk away

Sometimes you just have to implement them :)

Yes, the way I've heard it put is eating an orange is fine, but drinking a glass of juice is like eating an entire orchard.

Uh huh.

I thought this would have some decent insight as to memory usage or something.

Nope. It's just clinically stupid.

His first example is pretty much the same either way. I would say the "better" way is a little more involved to read. But it's nothing either way.

His second example makes unnecessary chains. He filters, then maps. When he could just use find and get the name like he does in the "steps" version.

Maybe we need fewerthingssmitty


Until it starts actually affecting their bottom line, how is it a misstep?

You yourself just admitted that you still use their products often.


Let's not ignore the fact that Jones's lawyers also completely messed up the discovery process by providing the prosecution with everything, including correspondence they had with Jones essentially admitting everything.

The prosecution even told them that they had completely fucked up and did they intend to send everything, and the defense said "Yes". Then when these messages were brought up in court, the defense tried to say that they couldn't be allowed because they were private correspondence between them and their client. To which the prosecution supplied their conversation with the defense showing that tried to make them aware and gave them a chance to correct their error.

It was a monumental fuck up.


An opinion would be something like "I think it's good that those kids were shot".

You could say that all day and people would not like you, but no one could do anything about it.

What Alex Jones did was deny reality. He suggested that the victims did not exist. He suggested the event did not happen and the grieving parents were government-hired actors. He riled up his listeners and effectively sent them after people. He did this in spite of knowing what he was saying on his show was not true. That was a large part of things, that Alex Jones was aware he was spreading misinformation.

Let's not pretend Alex Jones was doing was voicing a "difference of opinion".


> What Alex Jones did was deny reality. He suggested that the victims did not exist. He suggested the event did not happen and the grieving parents were government-hired actors. He riled up his listeners and effectively sent them after people. He did this in spite of knowing what he was saying on his show was not true. That was a large part of things, that Alex Jones was aware he was spreading misinformation.

> Let's not pretend Alex Jones was doing was voicing a "difference of opinion".

I agree. I'm disagreeing purely on whether $1 billion is a reasonable fine for deliberately lying. Not on whether he is guilty.


What do you feel would be an appropriate punishment?

You've done a lot of whinging about how you feel the $1B is too much but that you do feel Alex Jones should be punished. Try staking out a position on what you think should happen instead of this continual "yes but not that" mess.


Honestly, I'm not sure about the $1B number, but it needed to at the very least be the amount he made from slandering them on InfoWars, otherwise he'd still have profited off it. That would probably bankrupt him either way.

The Onion also owns Clickhole

Used to. Sold to Cards Against Humanity.

Oh shit, was not aware.

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