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It's the latest form of elitism - like in less sunny countries it's fashionable to be tanned because it means you are rich enough to have time to hang around on the beach while in sunny countries it's fashionable to be light skinned because you are rich enough that you don't have to work in the sun. Disdain for AI is a luxury belief of those who are either talented enough to draw / write / code without or are wealthy enough to not have to.

Is it though? I thought elite engineers needed to consume billions of tokens monthly and/or pay >100 USD subscriptions to AI tools to realize their potential.

We're calling skills a 'luxury' now? Doing actual work to learn things?

This place sure lost interest in meritocracy fast once mediocrity became available to everyone.

> Disdain for AI is a luxury belief ...

Or a belief of those scared that an imploding "AI" bubble will ruin their financial futures. Or just that most of the humans in their own white collar professions will be replaced by AI's.


What should people who can't afford to hire a white collar professional do?

My news reading AI policy - I will use whatever source for news, AI or human, that gives me the best news. A lot of times it's human, like I appreciate diverse human comments on ycombinator. CNN used to have comments threads on articles and then gave that up because some comments were spicy, so I stopped reading. I don't remember the last time I went to arstechnica, I guess because they didn't standout compared to just asking Grok what's new in tech or browsing Reddit. If they could have used more AI to make their site more interesting, they should have.

I don't eat grass.


That's a dim view, people also contribute to make projects work for their own needs with hopes to share fixes with others. Like if I make a fix to vLLM to make a model load on particular hardware, I can verify functionality (LLM no longer strays off topic) and local plausibility (global scales are being applied to attention layers), but I can't pretend to understand full math of the overall process and will never have enough time to do so. So, I can be upfront about AI assist and then maintainer can choose to double check, or else if they don't have time, I guess I can just post a PR link on model's huggingface page and tell others with same hardware they can try to cherrypick it.

What's missed is that neither contributors nor maintainers are usually paid for their effort and nobody has standing to demand that they do anything they are not doing already. Don't like a messy vibe coded PR but need functionality? Then clean it up yourself and send improved version for review. Or let it be unmerged. But don't assign work to others you don't employ.

On the other hand, companies like NVIDIA should be publicly taken to task for changing their mind about instruction set for every new GPU and then not supporting them properly in popular inference engines, they certainly have enough money to hire people who will learn vLLM inside out and ensure high quality patches.


    > What's missed is that neither contributors nor maintainers are usually paid for their effort
To be clear, the Linux kernel is mostly developed by well paid employees of various tech companies that need to steer the future of the Linux kernel, even if only to write drivers.


I just got MiniMax $200/year token plan. Usually it works fine for daily coding, if it gets stuck I pay for some Claude API calls through Roo gateway. Unlike other plans, this one officially supports running OpenClaw or other API workflows and doesn't suspend you long term if you use too many tokens, just set rate per few hours.


Why are you assuming the actual implementation was authored by a human?


My comment makes no such assumption.


So what does liberal even mean these days? California is passing bs like age verification in OS and Montana is protecting my right to leave the way I want in my own home, running whatever AI models suit me as long as I am not bothering anyone. That's just another "none of government business" personal freedom issue like pot or sexuality, why aren't blue states all over it. And yes, using tuned LLMs can be like an acid trip, but the distance between having a trip at home and tangible harm is much greater than in the case of access to guns, knives, power tools, cars and rodent poison yet at least some of these are widely available to law abiding citizens in every state. Government interventions can be staged at the points where there is evidence of actual imminent harm, like problematic public behavior. Why are Democrats the new "Reefer Madness" pearl clutchers and why should I still believe they have anything to do with living the way you want?


1) Right now, as things stand, the Democrats are our only alternative to something far more evil. Until we ratify a new constitution which implements a proportional, parliamentary government, the two-party system means you have to pick the lesser of two evils. In the interim maybe we can banish the Republican party to a niche constituency of openly reprehensible racists and bigots, and set up the Democrats as the new right wing and the Greens as the new left wing, but right now it is morally incumbent upon every American to vote Democrat.

2) Read your Marx. Liberty doesn't arrive from toxic individualism, it arrives from the fulfillment of man's nature as a social-creative animal. AI is a tool used by the bourgeoisie to further alienate us from each other; as is right-libertarian individualism.


There are 1 bit average GGUFs of large models, not perfect quality but they will hold a conversation. These days, there is also quantized finetuning to heal the damage.


Well, it's open training in the sense that the code is open source and you are free to fix it so it trains successfully. That's consistent with how open source works generally. In my experience unsloth is where new model training is usually fixed first.


Try writing code from description without looking at the picture or generated graphics. Visual LLM with a suggestion to find coordinates of different features and use lines/curves to match them might do better.


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