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How does targeting Chesa Boudin "not make much sense"? He has made things materially worse with policies of catch and release and mismanagement of the DA's Office. Bringing directly elected officials to account is a good first step.

Also if the suspects you talked about were prosecuted with "serious charges", why were they released? Surely there is a related policy which allowed this. Electing people to change those policies is the central method of effective change.


Is Chesa also responsible for the spikes in crime rates in Spokane, Phoenix, Laredo, and Nashville? There’s an asymmetry to this narrative where progressive DAs are responsible for all crime in their districts but conservative DAs are not. No matter what the facts are, the solution for some reason is always to swing in the tough-on-crime direction.


That's making an interesting comparison b/t the population density and economics of SF/NYC/etc and... Laredo?


Please, engage in the topic. Why do the crime rates of San Francisco disprove the theories of progressive policies, but the crime rates of Memphis, the nation’s most dangerous city by far, do not disprove the tough-on-crime theories of that jurisdiction’s district attorney?


Because Tennessee is not actually tough on crime. At least it isn't if the mayor of Memphis is to be believed.

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/TNMEMPHIS/bulletins...

If it is true that there are people committing acts of gun violence and getting probation, you absolutely don't get to call it "tough-on-crime".


Great. In that case you agree with numerous academic studies: the progressive or conservative policies of district attorneys has no influence over local crime rates!

Now with that settled we can discuss the causes and solutions of crime in SF. Because we’ve ruled out Chesa Boudin as both cause and potential solution.


> Great. In that case you agree with numerous academic studies: the progressive or conservative policies of district attorneys has no influence over local crime rates!

Don't put words in my mouth. You probably think yourself clever, having trapped me with a "gotem". Actually, you kinda just made yourself look foolish. You have demonstrated a clear lack of understanding in how the justice system works.

I'll educate you.

Prosecutors have to bring charges to hold people accountable. If the prosecutor doesn't bring charges or does a poor job presenting their case, criminals aren't held accountable.

If a prosecutor brings charges and secure a conviction, the judge needs to provide an appropriate sentence. It used to be the case that judges had a lot of discretion as to how to sentence an offender. Now sentencing is tightly controlled by state law and sentencing guideline commissions, which are GENERALLY soft on crime (in the name of "equity").

State law and/or sentencing commissions ultimately decide what the maximum punishment for a crime can be.

So in short, you're wrong about Chesa Boudin. If ANY ONE of the above three entities fails to hold criminal accountable, the entire system fails to hold criminals accountable. In Chesa Boudin's case, he's failing at least as much as every other component.


You're asking people to engage on a comment/topic via an attempted apples:apples comparison that's actually apples:grapefruit.


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