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Nuclear energy is one of the few technologies that have big tent support. How many things can we get both the Rs and Ds to support? Build build build!!

Lip service support. Nukes are too expensive and too slow to build. in the 10 years it would take to get one producing power from today, they’ll be even more cost obsolete by the relentless progress of renewables and battery. When leaders see the bill, they baulk.

Unfortunately that support doesn’t seem to extend to making the process take less than decades and cost less than gazillions due to overregulation so there’s no incentive to build.

Baseline energy is incredibly important, and often not factored into the "cost" comparisons.

Especially true now with the explosive growth of data center and AI workloads.


Isn't it rumored that many of the activists who lobbied (successfully) for Germany to shut down all of their nuclear power plants were being unwittingly funded by Russian interests?

I'm so glad we saved Diablo. It was VERY close to being shut down the same year we were having rolling blackouts.

So close - big save indeed.

Thankfully Russia, China, etc have the same qualms as we do in the United States and will refused to send their brightest engineers to work on weapons so they don't become "morally compromised"!!!

I don't think the long-term game theory of race to the bottom works out quite how you think.

"Our enemies would have no qualms building a weapon that will end life on earth! We better build it first because we're the good guys!"


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We also used to point to Russia and China as places we don't want to copy.

You don't have to copy them. You have to beat them.

I don't know if you're being sarcastic(sounds like you are!) but indeed a lot of engineers left Russia after the war in Ukraine started as they didn't want to be drafted and didn't want to contribute to the war effort in some way, even if indirectly. Of course, many stayed or even willingly help. See how many engineers from Iran work abroad too, for moral and other reasons.

The point is - this happens everywhere, it's not just some weird western thing.


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National security can mean protecting a society founded on the values of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It can also mean facilitating a militaristic surveillance state.

Not necessarily the same things, and at some point we might have to choose who's side we're on


Just curious, did the move on Greenland and Iran have national security interest? And is it economical or life threatening?

We, the people, ostensibly get to say what these security interests are. Also, the security policy executed on by the state is not some immutable monolith. One can agree or disagree with it as it changes over time, and hopefully, influence its direction to arc towards goodness.

I did and helped d33ps33k. You are welcome!

This was the same logic that was used when building nuclear weapons, and many of the scientists involved in that tried to find a different path (most notably Niels Bohr). I think we would be in a much better world if they had been successful. It's good that we're trying again w/ LLMs.

People in those countries do have qualms, they are people after all and they choose to work in other fields.

The US is sure becoming an unfree scary place just like Russia. Keep it up following those role models!

It's indeed the latter. Psychologically harder for me than a $20/mo sub but still a better value for the money. I'm finding myself spending closer to $40-$60 a month w/ openrouter without a forced token break.

Edit: it looks like it's 75% off right now which is really an incredible deal for such a high caliber frontier model.


Neat, dumb question - are the tokens you prepay for good forever, or do they expire? And do they provide any assurances or SLA's about speed? (i.e. that in a year they won't decide to dole out response tokens to you at a snail's pace)

Maybe we should repeal the first amendment?

I don't understand. Nothing stopping him from lying publicly about anybody or anything. It's not like he loses his 1st amendment card or something.

The only lesson he's learned is to hire a better legal team in the future for civil (not criminal) suits.


> hire a better legal team

Is there any real reason to believe that the problem was his legal teams? You know there were a lot of them, right? Aside from the singular example late in the case, it is plausible that most/all of his legal teams were quite competent.


>Nothing stopping him from lying publicly about anybody or anything

It's a bit messier than that. For example if he's going to set up a new media empire things like banks will give a pretty big fuck you to loans and such if they think all your assets will be captured by the court and they'll be left holding the bag.

This doesn't stop him from putting together money in other ways, but massively increases the difficulty on his part as every time he does he'll find a suit showing up to collect it from him.

And as others have said, this has nothing to do with good/bad lawyers. The good lawyers came in at first and told him he was totally screwed, and because he's such a pompous ass he could not handle that.


You're right. I should have said discouraging him rather than making sure.

However the notion that Jones has learned something is so utterly preposterous that not even his fans are stupid enough to believe it


If he did something criminal then there's a code of law that provides a remedy to that. As far as I know that's not what happened here.

Because what he did wasn't criminal, many people wanted a maximal civil settlement in substitution.


What he did is lose his civil lawsuits about as hard as it's possible to lose, which is easily explained by his behavior during those lawsuits.

The "punishment" keeps appearing in this thread and I think that is what explains the eye popping settlement.

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