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I wrote that and I think you're right. We were trying to convey that you don't need to set up anything, but the wording could definitely be better. I'll change it.


Puter's networking is open-source and e2e encrypted. Also, a regular browser doesn't give access to raw TCP sockets used for this, so it wouldn't be possible to route through your browser.



what do you mean? we're a team of 10 and have 390 contributors. We post regularly, including me.


The 21 on github, do you mean? And only nine above 3 commits ever? Yes you post regularly, too much even, and in the face of the guideline Please don't use HN primarily for promotion


nobody (hyperbole, corrected: few) follows that promotion rule. and where are you getting 21 from? the github repo https://github.com/HeyPuter/puter says 391 contributors, subtract maybe a few for bots

also, talk about posting too much? look at your own submissions page


Yep, you're right, that was on browser.js, not the whole repo (19 above 6 commits, out of 391)


I think it's either an automated account or just karma-farming at the highest level lol


Why are you being so hostile?


should've used this in the splash screen :(



Sarcastically: Surely a forum post is an effective way of notifying the relevant legal departments about this.

You would be better off reporting the requesting account to GitHub for sanctions, if your goal is to productively enforce such things as you cite on behalf of the U.S. government. Are you an authorized agent thereof or merely a Concerned Citizen with patriotic intentions?


Hello! I'm the founder. Your understanding of how Puter.js works is correct. We call it the "User-Pays Model" [1]: in short if you build your app using Puter.js, users cover their own infra cost, not just limited to AI. The idea is that infra cost will become essentially free for the developer.

As for user resistance, we haven't experienced that yet. I think generally for a user the puter.js experience (hopefully) beats the alternatives: 1) "give me your OpenAI API KEY to try my app" 2) Entering your credit card information in yet another app. Both of these also help apps as well, at the very least when it comes to conversion since you don't have to ask the user for their API key or credit card in many cases, not to mention you don't have to build metering, billing, rate-limiting, API key management, etc.

P.S. we're open-source: https://github.com/HeyPuter/puter

[1] https://docs.puter.com/user-pays-model/


I work on Puter (https://github.com/heyPuter/puter/); an open-source, self-hostable internet computer.

People use Puter for an incredibly wide range of things, including cloud storage, web hosting, coding, AI, and gaming. Right now, we're mostly focused on improving performance and making sure that it's as fast as a regular desktop environment!


This looks fun! But the fact that the self hosted version lacks support for some core apps is sad, I'd love to be able to build puter apps! Any plans for an app store-like ecosystem?


Yes! definitely. Please stay tuned :)


Working on Puter (https://github.com/heyPuter/puter/), the Open-source Internet Computer!

Building desktop environment in the cloud with built in cloud storage, AI, processing, app ecosystem and much more!


Lovely interface. This is quite impressive. I can't seem to get a terminal running though. Can I actually execute scripts here? I opened code and created a hello.py, terminal did not come up in Code either.


Thank you so much! We are working on a Linux emulator that would allow you to run most programs. It's currently a bit behind but coming out soon :)


Shameless plug for my project: https://github.com/HeyPuter/kv.js

Don't kill me :')


That's a great project! I'm definitely going to give it a try.


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