That is not a pure upgrade, GPL may well be the "better" / safer / trusted /... option for some

You're welcome to take an MIT-licensed project, fork it, and relicense it as GPL. The inverse? not so much.

Hard to sell it as anything but an upgrade if you care about open source.

The thread here doesn't explain why GPL might be better. So I'll try.

You're correct, with MIT there are a lot less restrictions. I can make GPL or pretty much any other license. Including one that I sell and never have to release the source of.

The latter option means if you make a product off of it, you have no obligation to share or even fund upstream development. This kind of situation has strangled other products.

Consider if Linux was released under MIT. Then companies like Oracle and RedHat (now owned by IBM) who have strong incentives to keep improvements to themselves and fund a lot of development would never share those improvements. Linux is the most used operating system in the world because of _everyone_ contributing back. But a MBA would want to privitize the profits.

If you care about the long term openness of a product, then GPL is hard to beat.

> Hard to sell it as anything but an upgrade if you care about open source.

Quite the opposite. We care about these freedoms enough that we want everyone to enjoy them. We don't want a third party to take this work and use it to lock more people into their proprietary software.

The ideological split likely comes from whether you care more about developers having the freedom to do whatever they want, or do you care about users having access to software which works the way they want it to.

> You're welcome to take an MIT-licensed project, fork it, and relicense it as GPL.

No you can't. MIT requires attribution.

Cloud flare taking a strong anti ai scraping stance. Then turning around and acquiring an AI hosting service also feels contradictory

Cloudflare literally offers a paid scraping API as one of its services.

https://developers.cloudflare.com/browser-rendering/rest-api...

Buying an AI company when you have a monopoly on scraping most of the internet seems like good business sense.

Cloudflare is also big on serverless on the edge (where the edge is their cdn), including AI inference

Posting is my personal favourite https://github.com/darrenburns/posting

not the fastest but brilliant tool

You probably got served an Anubis challenge first, doing some computations to block (LLM) scraper bots, which does slow down loading by a second or so

Speaking of, I don't mind that in principle, but why does it linger so long on the "Success" page? It adds a handful of milliseconds of page loading and 30ms of computation, and an eternity (~seconds) of just an unnecessary delay before even starting to load the site I actually wanna go to, whys that?

Makes the page entirely unreachable from within the Harmonic hacker news client on android... Good idea in practice but defeats the purpose if it blocks legitimate users.

It's not a good idea in practice precisely because it blocks legitimate users. As it always will. It's not possible to do this sort of thing without blocking legitimate users.

Ohh, so that was the image I saw there. Good to know.

And halfway down the page background becomes bright pink for me??

#1 destroys peoples willingness to publish and unfairly hogs bandwidth / creates costs for small hosters

#2 makes a big corp a bit angry

Indeed not the same thing

PWA's just got a callout in the OP, freshly supported since this year

Is there a significant difference between that package and SageMath / XCas / Octave and friends? While a bit arcane, I've always been a great fan of xcas

Yes. SpeQ math, is extremely small, starts instantly and stands alone with no complex runtime.

Indeed, but listing LaTeX as "No scripting" seems odd at best

The rather mild water resistance on that model always has me doubting..

Unless you're a diver, it should be OK. I've never taken mine off for swimming or sailing and not had a problem in two years.