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Two percent of Switzerland is 200k people. Which is about how many people immigrate there every year

My Starlink receiver already isn’t mine. It’s locked to one account.

I can’t give it to someone else to use without contacting the company and registering it.

I can’t donate it to goodwill and have someone else use it.


This. We need to stop calling this “age verification.” You are uploading your full ID. Not your age.

Where does it say a "full ID" must be uploaded?

Check out the two vendors of mobile solutions, they want a photo of your state ID. Here's Persona's page about it.

https://withpersona.com/blog/what-is-drivers-license-verific...

My understanding is that if you are under 18, you can get away with uploading a selfie.


That doesn't answer my question though, sorry.

Maybe you mean where in bill does it say a US photo ID is required.

I think your are correct, I don't believe such a requirement exists in the bill itself and that's a big part of the article. Because the law doesn't require this, there's a very real risk that people won't realize that, if you are an adult, you will be required to upload a photo of your state ID. Prople might support the bill and only realize what it means in practical terms once it is too late and it has become law.

It isn't clear to me if requiring photo ID is a practical requirement or a decision the two incumbent vendors have made for their own reasons. My guess is that it is the cheapest and easiest solution.


Yeah this is the whole point. It’s not (currently) possible to verify your age without at least revealing your identity.

You can talk about birthday hash or whatever, I don’t see it happening


There is no other technology to do age verification at scale.

Apple, Google and such will contract out this age verification to a third-party which will ask you to upload your ID and a 3D face captcha, which the third party will delete within 15 days, but somehow magically still make it into an unfortunate, unavoidable data leak a couple of years later.


I think you are assuming what their definition of "verify" is going to be, but it's not actually written in the text of the bill, so we don't know. Similar laws in some states only asked the OS to collect the age, it specifically doesn't say that the information must ever be accurate, stored or used for anything.

Collecting the age will be done via a photo of a legal US state ID. We can take bets but, as the article points out, only two vendors can do this and this is how they do it.

> Collecting the age will be done via a photo of a legal US state ID

Do you have a source for this claim?


At this point not assuming malice is probably naïveté, but I respect your optimism

how do you validate citizenship and authenticity without a full ID?

I believe you can get a valid US state ID without being a citizen. In regards to this bill, IMHO, they are looking only to verify age.

Where does it say citizenship must be validated?

A privacy preserving cryptographic digital ID that supports zero knowledge proofs.

...in a world where any legislator ever consulted with cryptography and security engineers on this sort of thing.

What we are going to get is people printing fake IDs on paper and holding them up to a camera.


It’s reminiscent of what are known as “unbranded pharmaceutical websites,” which focus on educating patients about conditions and symptoms without promoting a specific brand-name drug, which means the regulatory bar is far lower and you don’t need to include any safety info etc.

An example would be a website creating awareness around a disease for which there is (or was at the time) only one or two treatments for, like ED, crohns, a specific type of cancer, etc. in fine print at the bottom will say “Pfizer” or “j&j” but no drugs are mentioned, just a call to “ask your doctor about possible treatments.”


Turmeric. Honey (on burns)- Medihoney was even used in a recent Pitt episode. Aspirin, though this is older than 50 years.


The funny thing is Apple products are considered “finished products” No one would feel the same way if it was a home built computer.

The modding community is a shadow of its old self these days


The modding community lives on where it always were, hacking gaming and demoscene, and that never wasn't on Apple platforms for the most part, rather Amiga, PC, Atari,...


That doesn’t seem strange to me, Apple is my “buy it for what’s on the box” brand, stuff that I don’t want to mod. If I want to mess with something I usually use hardware that runs Linux.


Actual death rate for astronauts so far is 19/791, or 1 in 40.


Knowing what we know now, imagine how much it would have accelerated back then if the elites hadn’t been able to smother out the Occupy movement. Wild to think about


Quite the opposite. In my observations, the time shortly after OWS was a major inflection point.


Antitrust division at DOJ has been subjective since the beginning. The Sherman Act is very broad and requires a certain discretion to enforce


Insert the astronaut with a gun meme (always has been). Lords and ladies also delegated to administrative functionaries, with similar results and dynamics. The difference here is that the commissioners are, hopefully, democratically elected, under the dictates and regulation of the U.S. and state constitutions. Which is a key difference.


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