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Very impressive to use intel cpu without BIOS. Real hacker

NETBSD still can run on it too :) Best and most portable os in the history

> most portable os

Eh... I think the Linux kernel + your choice of libc/userland has it beat these days.


The Linux kernel dropped 386 support fourteen years ago.

https://www.theregister.com/2012/12/12/linux_no_longer_runs_...


I'm well aware, thank you. I'm not contesting ability to run on a 386, I'm contesting the title of "most portable OS".

OK. In context -- discussing an article talking specifically about AMD 386 chips -- that was not at all clear.

I was at a talk celebrating NetBSD's 30th anniversary. I wrote about it:

https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/17/30yo_netbsd_releases_...

They're well aware of this.

But as Linux edges closer to dropping 32-bit x86 completely -- most distros already have -- I think NetBSD may suddenly regain some relevance in this specific area.

There's also a new initiative to improve its jails facility:

https://netbsd-jails.petermann-digital.de/


Modern Linux can't even scratch a 486 and some Motorola platforms. Or VAX. Heck, I run NetBSD 10.1 vanilla under simh 3.8 for 9front emulated on an amd64 laptop (old Celeron, 2GB). Slow, but enough to play Slashem.

On portability on compilers, plan9/9front it's unbeatable. Do you now Go compiling from any OS to any arch? The same here, but just for an OS obviously. Albeit I can still run Golang under i386, and tools like Rclone under 9front i386. That's really cool.


That's a very limited view of what portability means.

Driver support for a niche SoC? Good luck getting NetBSD on before Linux. The sheer amount of SoCs supported by the Linux kernel dwarfs anything NetBSD has to offer.


Yeah, NetBSD's support for modern hardware isn't amazing compared to Linux. I love it (and run my personal web server on it!), but the portability thing feels like a meme from the 4.4BSD days, where it ran on basically every workstation platform.

Like sure, it runs on my VAX, my Sun4/75, and my Alpha box, but it doesn't run on my POWER9 workstation nor does it run my Amlogic A311D ARM device (at least in a usable capacity), and I couldn't even get i.MX 8M running. I didn't try super hard, to be fair, but why would I burn cycles getting an OS with less peripheral support running when Linux "just works"?


I don't think Linux "just works" on VAX, Sun4/75, or Alpha.

My experience with Linux on a Sun Sparcstation 20 circa 2000 was that it was slow as hell compared to Net or OpenBSD.


I doubt NetBSD "just works" fully on those systems either. I see a lot of rose tinted glasses when NetBSD portability comes up. Those older systems barely get stress tested, as the system has become too large to be self-hosted on them anymore and has to resort to using cross compilation to build a working base.

At least OpenBSD, when it says it supports a platform, _actually supports that platform_, and the system is stable enough that it can build itself.


Modern Linux dropped support for a lot of old and niche CPUs.

And NetBSD is missing support for an order of magnitude more SoCs. I like NetBSD. I've run it on several systems in the past, and not just as a toy. I like the whole BSD family, and even deploy FreeBSD in production at work, and use OpenBSD on my home router. But NetBSD's claim as the most portable OS doesn't hold up these days.

It is not. Takes like 30 seconds

If you want your brand new phone to be filled with adware apps and obnoxious default settings, sure.

You bought the wrong phone and/or put the wrong distribution on it. Having said this it does take more than 30 seconds to get a new device up to your personal specs unless you're fine with whatever vendor distribution runs on it - which can work if you choose the right vendor but mostly ends up with your device serving someone else. I'd say it takes closer to 30 minutes than 30 seconds but I'm fine with taking this time given that my average Android phone lifetime is a bit over 8 years. I'm currently using a Redmi Note 5 Pro from 2018 which I'll soon relegate to second device status once I have a replacement, probably a Motorola G75 or something similar. That device should also last me around 8 years. Before the Redmi I'm using now I used a Motorola Defy from 2010 which, incidentally, is still in use as a trailer camera. Android devices can last a very long time because the firmware is open. Eventually they'll be too slow or lack the memory to support more recent Android distributions - which is what made me replace the Defy with the Redmi - but that does not mean they end up taking space in a drawer somewhere. They're in use here as trailer camera, media player, 3D printer controller and more.

Customizing it to your liking is different than "setting it up".

there is no source code AND There is no option to include your own file or text to train. It trains just some stupid names. Zero value imo

Please don't be a jerk on HN, and especially not when responding to someone's work. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.


lol there is source code as a gist

Now suddenly everyone's gonna become a 'maintainer'. People are gonna abuse it and just use it for everything else BUT proper(not fake and AI GENERATED) open source projects.

Sad day. I hope so they are gonna change the TOS and punish anyone with a 1 million $ fine if someone lies.

That's the only way: criminal charges for students using AI(when forbidden such as academia) and people who plan to abuse it (stealing tokens against TOS).

it's impossible to compete with cheaters and with cheaters who stole moneyl


Can I add a line like this to my robots.txt and pick up 1 million $ from each of the Ai companies?

Now suddenly everyone's gonna become a 'maintainer'. People are gonna abuse it and just use it for everything else BUT proper(not fake and AI GENERATED) open source projects.

Sad day. I hope so they are gonna change the TOS and punish anyone with a 1 million $ fine if someone lies.

That's the only way: criminal charges for students using AI(when forbidden such as academia) and people who plan to abuse it (stealing tokens against TOS).

it's impossible to compete with cheaters and with cheaters who stole money


So? You can still win the race if you have the third fastest car on the planet.

what do you even mean?! start what at the kernel?

kernel is locked and most phones can't be rooted anymore


same

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