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An organization aligning itself with progressives means they will only support a certain set of digital rights that align with progressive politics and not others.

I guess you can still call yourself a digital rights organization if you want by you won’t be seen as legitimate by both sides of the aisle.


Which digital rights are exempt if you are subscribing to the "progressive" side of politics?

And even if true how does that make it suddenly an organization one shouldn't support?

Is saving one of two arms better than saving none because you can't save the other?


Thank you being a rare sensible voice on this topic. The fanboyism of chess fans is insane these days. I get that the average age of chess fans these days is very low, probably 14 or so, but it’s still pretty annoying.

I don’t. Everyone ends up affected by the whims of a celebrity in this case.

Lots of people are taking the side of the US, which has attacked civilian infrastructure and killed civilians in Iran and threatened to completely destroy Iran. And you have lots of people taking the side of Israel, which is has been conduction a genocide openly. All the sides have blood in their hands but I would argue the IRGC has the least blood in their hands.

There is no data based view of this world where the IRGC and the Islamic Republic doesn't have the most blood on their hands and is the least moral player here by modern standards by far. Just in 1988 they executed 30,000 people. In 2025 at least 1000. In 2026 10's of thousands.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601255198

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/mde130...

https://www.ecpm.org/2025/02/20/the-death-penalty-in-iran-th...

Dissidents are being hanged in Iran as we write this.

Israel has claims of self defense after being brutally attacked. The US has claims of wanting to take down the regime and prevent them from getting nuclear weapons. You can argue about claims and actions. The Iranian regime has no shred of excuse other than their total lack of humanity.


What in the world?? Iraq was a million civilians killed by the US. Gaza was 100,000 civilians killed by Israel in the last 3 years. And that’s not including all of the other atrocities committed by the two countries.

And there is no proof of the 10s of thousands of protesters killed claiming. That was just propaganda to enable this recent war.

Countries can claim this and that about defense and brutal attacks, and depending on who you are you believe the propaganda or not, but in the end what matters is the destruction and killing they do. Which US and Israel and done more of by a long shot.


Interesting. I have noticed that news about events in Iran has been markedly different within the US and outside the US for years.

Come on, just admit that you are not able to follow the debate instead of criticizing it from the outside without understanding it.

As opposed to this, you have the mindless non-contrarians who unquestioningly believe any assertion by academia or authority, which is a problem too.

I feel like you're completely proving my point here.

Well I have a PhD and have published lots of papers, so I like to think I am educated lol.

And I should unquestioningly believe you? :P

I mean, from a position of critiquing non-contrarians you shouldn’t in general. But me specifically, everyone should believe me lol.

But you confuse that set of people with people who don’t know want to inject untested vaccines into their body.

(I don’t)

I’m genuinely not aware of a DIY or grey market in vaccines. Peptides, yes, but vaccines?

In the absence of this, I suspect you’re either confused or straw-manning…


I was referring to the MRNA vaccines, which were relatively untested when released to the public. Suspicion of that is very reasonable.

Okay; noting that the argument has moved from "untested" to "relatively untested".

To clarify, is your concern the inadequacy of the approval process FDA uses for (all) vaccines (noting that many vaccines --e.g. influenza-- are refreshed on a fairly regular basis to account for new strains of viruses) or something specific to approval of the MRNA vaccines?

Or is it that MRNA vaccines were a new approach for vaccines more generally, and so there wasn't/isn't the same long-term data that there was/is for multiple generations of vaccines based on older technologies (viral vector, toxoid, etc.)?


Untested is always relative. And the second, but what’s your point?

> Untested is always relative.

I disagree; "untested" is a very definitive statement. Not tested. Especially when it's in a thread discussing people using all manner of less tested or sometimes literally untested peptides. (Hence my initial thought that maybe you were aware of people taking a DIY route that I wasn't.)

Anyway, when discussing a subject so popularly controversial as vaccines, it's probably better to be precise.

> And the second, but what’s your point?

I wanted to understand your perspective.


It’s a reasonable metric but it should be evaluated based on what’s happening on the ground. For example, if Russia is advancing and Ukraine is retreating, and KIA is same in each side, then Russia would pick up many more bodies to exchange than Ukraine.

And mainly in the name of these holy books too lol. The forgetfulness of people when they see news like this is always funny to me.

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