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lol this would actually happen tho


Document dbs, like crypto cycles, keep coming in and out of the zeitgeist...why? I just don't understand how purportedly smart engineers keep falling for the same traps over and over


That’s offensive to the innovation happening in crypto to be honest, compared to the lack of it in the non-relational database world


What is even left to innovate in document databases? They do a very specific thing well; it's not their fault naive engineers keep trying to use them in ways they are not intended to be used


mistakes will always be made at all stages, imo the key differentiator is how quickly they course correct and iterate


It is not a mistake when it is a decision made after a well-thought tradeoff evaluation.


I guess I should rephrase, a true enterprise plan may make sense to cost that much. I think the gap for Vercel seems to be in the in-between stage. They have plans that are super cheap or free for small hobby projects, and the expensive enterprise plan. Not much in between for when you're growing.

The other dilemma for them seems to be in capturing true enterprise customers...if you have those resources, you might just decide to build out your own dev ops/infra team instead of paying big markups on AWS/Cloudflare bills.


To your first point, I think you have to start valuing your time when analyzing the cost. If you have a small growing SaaS, is spending $100-200/mo for hosting really a big deal? Think about the cost of your time. I will gladly pay that kind of hosting cost to not have to spend time doing devops on my small product. I'd rather spend that time on feature development or marketing.

I think your second point is debatable. We used to spend something like $50-100k a year on Heroku which is technically way overpriced, but hiring even a single devops person to move us to AWS would have been much more expensive and introduced all sorts of risk. I think a medium sized company is fine paying $100-300k to something like Heroku as long as the offerings are fitting the architectural needs. And Heroku is AWS so you can always use some AWS services alongside your Heroku stuff.


Is the fund actually owned by OpenAI the company or OpenAI the non-profit? I thought it was a separate entity that basically had the name and Sam's ownership attached, and was owned and operated separately.


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