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This needs an SBOM and a SonarQube Qualitygate pass to be considered production grade code

I think the future is going to look pretty boring, we are all going to review and put our signature below LLM generated output...

By that point money ceases to have value, because the value of money comes from the motivation it gives people to work. If AI does everything, then money is useless (unless AI like money for some reason).

There will still be a need to distribute and exchange ressources, goods and services.

Real estate, food, energy, mobility.

That will be done with money. Or violence. Either way, a scary future to people when labor doesn't provide any value. Elon promises abundance, but what can he do against greed?


I am genuinely worried about violence, especially if people start losing their jobs due to automation.

People are still going to be motivated to eat and have shelter.

Of course, but who (what?) is going to make the food and the shelter?

Either way, it's not going to be free, so if money ceases to have value, we are going to have a problem. That's my point.

Yeah could get interesting. Things like legal, programming, math, etc. are going to be relatively cheap / free. Meanwhile something like natural resources, building things, yardwork, etc. may go up in value. Or perhaps we end up with a relatively "spiky" economy since 90% of people are just doing physical jobs (the only human jobs with value), and the AI owner class of course gains all the value from intellectual products (with value diminishing towards cost of electricity). Thinking as human value may be roughly as valuable as it ever was (which is to say nearly non-existant other than the ability to solve an immediate physical problem). Might also be that physical strength and stamina are the highest value mating traits, since they will be able to protect and provide. Physically weak intellectual types will have little value since they can't out-think the machines, and they also can't provide for a family by doing valuable physical tasks. IQ overall begins to drop as mating favors intelligence less and less, as it can actually be an impedance to being productive.

For a short time in history, the ability to obsessively focus on intellectually interesting abstract concepts was highly lucrative, but just as quickly we returned to the laws of nature: those who can lift and move succeed, those who can only think are automated out of existance.

We go from a species increasingly seeing themselves as "brains with bodies" to "amazing bodies with weak brains". The limitation of robots and AI in the physical realm, power hungry, mobility limited are contrasted with human values: energy efficient, highly mobile and dexterous, extremely good strength/speed/size ratios. The brain on the other hand, while energy efficient, is completely outclassed and seen as we see our swimming/jumping abilities: a novelty for sports, but nothing we seriously consider a defining human trait.

The smartest humans can fill weekends with novelty pursuits like building circuits, games, programs, etc. But they are about as useful as whittling and hobby woodcraft, something to pass time, but ultimately of no economic value.


there are always be next frontier of problems which require creativity, unless AI become supersmart completely make humans redundant in all cognitive functions.

You can get a used or cheap headset for a similar experience. VR has a couple of games you get bored of pretty quickly :0

been there


We just need basic legislation to make these companies invest more resources into developing guardrails, and if they don't do that properly or can't pull it off, they shall be at an economic disadvantage.

You could hire a legion of people for cheap to commit these crimes, but if its bots, suddenly its unpredictable and just one big whoopsie and therefore perfectly ok to do?

If a human starts pentesting a site its a crime, but if a bot does it its an AGI frontier doomsday scenario and that automatically pushes the consequences off their table?

Whats going to happen next? Are we gonna have robots that happen to physically break into banks to rob them for some reason and the company making them isnt responsible just because?


On top of these unrealistic doomsday prophecies going around lately, every company really has a disdain for its workers and would love to replace them all with bots. What everyone thought will happen, will eventually lead to companies become dependant on these AI companies. They can then jack up the prices as much as they wish, since there is no competition left or rehiring is ever so inflexible. I hope companies see the rug they place themselves on clearly. Notice how its always some fear inducing scenario in the future and this has been going for a couple of years now.

I honestly feel personally attacked by this and I don't consider myself to be an out of touch kung fu master or technologist at all. It is just very odd to read such an inflammatory comment on HN and then have people pretend this is correct and perfectly socially acceptable to say.

Like put your shoes into the person you are arguing against, with some empathy, would you want to be treated this way?


Funny thing coming from a person with such a bio.

You feel attacked? I’m only referring people who are out of touch and lying to themselves. If you’re not doing that then it’s not you.

Unless if you feel it’s referring to you then you’re saying what I said is true. If what I said is true, then it’s not an attack is it? I’m just spitting facts. So don’t get offended, don’t think of it as an attack.


Absolutely correct take. People are so caught up in doing the bidding, they forget what it is all about.

We really have to postpone the IPOs because of security reasons, these LLMs cannot be trusted

I know this is intended as a joke but there is something to it. The public market has a way of elevating profit over everything else, even if you start with the best intentions. Remember “don’t be evil”?

Yes, you have a point here

This actually looks very useful, good work

Eerily accurate how it works these days, I wish you weren't correct. I met a DBA wizard (he looked like the creator of c++) at a banking IT dept and this guy intuitively sensed what you needed and how its done.

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