I often argue this point, however I wonder how other people on HN discuss this issue with their non-technical "real politik" (actually just Political Science majors) friends that suggest that prohibiting encryption for non-sanctioned private entities (for example allowing bank transactions, online shopping, but disallowing encrypted chat protocols, emails, etc) is not terribly detrimental for the state barring "morality" concerns and our commitment to the principals of democracy, free speech, and the like.

I often resort to, "You can't ban math!", but wonder if there are more outlined resources for explaining this.

Case and point - having to use this script to unsubscribe from all the emails ...

https://gist.github.com/chengyin/7021086

Hard to see how this will have better luck than the last X iterations of this "Uber" for cleaners idea...

Getting a 504 Gateway Time-out over here

That's the first problem to be solved.