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"intentionally malevolent" -> Stephen Miller's second name. The cruelty is and always was the point.


This is true. I resisted this conclusion for a long time, imagining it was tendentious, but there is really no other way to understand his rhetoric and his actions.


I thought his second name was Goebbles?


Yup, he's not minced words in all the interviews he's done and he's happy to label US citizens "terrorists" if he thinks they're in his way or 'race traitors'.

All because he was a massive loser in middle/high school, and like most bigots, his hatred is rooted in needing to have someone "beneath" him. So he based his entire personality and life around hating anyone not straight, white, male, and "American" so he could feel better about himself.

It is amazing how many people have been killed from all the policies he's been ramming through, simply because of a huge inferiority complex.

It's also a bit sad how every generation of immigrants turn around and pull the ladder up behind them.


>> It's also a bit sad how every generation of immigrants turn around and pull the ladder up behind them.

This is a real head scratcher. Some of the biggest Trump supporters I interact with at work are people of color, from countries the adminstration has labelled "shitholes" - they would never be allowed to visit - let alone immigrate - today. I guess once you get yours everyone else can go to hell.


I had a Panamanian neighbor who was big on Trump in 2024 primarily because of his stance on immigration. My neighbor felt that since they and their family had come to the US legally, it was only fair to kick out those who had come illegally. There assumption is that this would be a tough-on-crime thing and that the existing law would applied strongly but fairly with respect to the legal status of the people being deported.

Folks from communities of color in the United States I have generally experienced as trending conservative in their values (Oakland notwithstanding). Trump being a 'tough guy' and a 'macho' is often well-received.

Also, for many folks, Trump has long been seen as something to aspire to and someone to emulate. Trump sells a very American and New York image of success, many people believe they want the life he has (notoriety, money, cars, beautiful wife, mistress, good-looking kids, glitz, etc). The Apprentice was a big success for a reason, it sold a version of reality many people wanted to believe in.

So yeah. People don't believe in race. They believe in money and power.


It's a very immigrant thing to be susceptible to the strongman political manipulations of the country they left, to believe that emulation and imitation can bring luck/success. America is very much defined by immigrant dreaming.

Which is why it is nonsense to say banning immigration is anything other than anti-American.

The idea that it would be a crackdown on illegal immigration was an essentially greedy belief that legal immigrants, especially Hispanic, would be elevated in status. Of course nothing could be further from the truth. Their skin color, their language and their community all mark them as targets for harassment.

It will be very hard for the machismo cultures to accept that they were deceived so they'll vote for Trump again.


Do we really want a bunch of immigrants that are susceptible to strongman political manipulations?


Unfortunately there is less incentive for talented and qualified people from prosperous democracies to more to the US. There is significant drama in obtaining a work visa (high sponsor administrative burden), you are tied to an employer, it is difficult for your spouse to also get a visa, etc.

So the source of high skill immigrants is countries with dictators and economic dysfunction. That used to include places like Poland, Czech Republic, Italy, etc. The first generation brings new ideas and cultural flavour, the second generation is completely American. As long as you don't have religious schools and ethnic charter schools getting state funds, integration is systematic and inevitable.


> I guess once you get yours everyone else can go to hell.

Sounds they truly have become naturalized Americans


A very common attitude in low trust societies, not just the US.


This is also why a lot of fellow Eastern European immigrants tend to be incorrigibly racist to black or Hispanic people, but especially black.

The best explanation I've been able to come up with is that insecure and fluid middle classes, unsure and anxious of their social position but certain that it's not too high, need someone to stomp on, to feel that at least there's someone who's even below them.


Some of the biggest Trump supporters I interact with at work are people of color, from countries the adminstration has labelled "shitholes"

They're in the US precisely because they have the same sentiment about where they came from, and don't want the worst of their origins to follow them. I assume they are also fully assimilated into American culture.


You should double check Project 2025 before solely blaming Miller.


They called Miller out as one aspect, not the totality of the problem.


There will be plenty of blame to go around when the trials start.


There never will be trials. Assuming things actually swing back the new admin will talk about healing and looking forward.


Fair point, but one can hope.


Idk the pr author did merge it into main and talked about writing a blog post. To me that sounds like the author felt it was ready for public critique and feedback, especially for software with a fair bit of users


It's not replacing the stable build, and not being claimed as bug-free. "Public critique and feedback" is not meaningful or useful if it just consists of regurgitating what's happening in a more negative and uninformed way.


Yeah this just reeks of 'old man yelling at cloud' with nothing practical or realistic


They can "sort" it? Nudge nudge wink wink? Amazing.


Yea why wouldn’t Satya or Microsoft be able to call the president’s office and figure out how to pay the fee?

Set aside this “nudge nudge wink wink” stuff - I’m providing a solution to the acute issue, not a moral judgement.

Looks like it was sorted https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/20/donald-trump-h1b-vi...


"A breathtaking level of corruption" is not a solution.


That’s a separate point and unrelated to my post.


The "Trump Corporate Gold Card" sounds like something straight out of The Onion, but it is real, and presumably how these bribes will be managed:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-unveils-gold-platinum-v...


After the latest executive order, your fortunes are going to change very soon. Hang in there!


Idk should he be allowed to peddle unhelpful, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories?


Should Fox, Newsmax, OANN, Alex Jones, Tucker, Bannon, the deputy director the the FBI (in a prior gig, to be fair), the president of the United States (current & prior gigs), members of congress, MAGA influencers like Tim Pool, the company paying Tim Pool, the people paying the company that pays Tim Pool, etc, etc, etc, and etc, be allowed to?


Good question. Same answer to both. Glad we agree!


In your view, is that answer yes, or no?

I'd say yes, they all should be. The first amendment demands it.


Sure, yes works for me as long as we're consistent about it.


Holy doublestandards, Batman!


Saying the shooter was "one of them" has been the most common commentary from both sides. It's inaccurate to call either conclusion a conspiracy.


Shouldn't most of Fox News be off the air then? And most podcasts, left or right?



And what's changed because of it? Nothing?


Do RO filters eliminate these chemicals?


They do, but the vast majority of fluids the average person consumes comes in products made elsewhere, along with restaurants, etc. So you can RO your home water, but unless you don't eat anything made elsewhere, water your own crops, etc, you need comprehensive protections to avoid them.


Bit of research suggests even counter top filters help, though with very wide range of opinions as to how much it helps and which PFAS it does work against (there are thousands)

https://www.epa.gov/water-research/identifying-drinking-wate...


Native Americans?


Is there a movement for native Americans sovereignty?


I wouldn't call it a "movement" but rather a limited legal framework based on agreements.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal_sovereignty_in_the_Unit...


There should be. But presumably its harder since most of them were killed.

Not sure how the colonization of America justifies other colonization's.

Unless you think everyone is owed a 1 free genocide pass?


lawlessone says: "...since most of them were killed.

Not sure how the colonization of America justifies other colonization's.

Unless you think everyone is owed a 1 free genocide pass?"

Most of them died from disease. Far more of them died from disease than died from say, hand to hand combat or warfare on the plains.

The American Indians were toast as soon as the first coughing European stepped ashore. The native Americans had no immunity to the stew of diseases that had been brewing in Europe and Asia for centuries, so the Indians simply died. Once an Indian had a disease (s)he could spread it to other indians (s)he met. The flame front of infection raged ahead of the white man across the continent. The "mountain men" encountered regions where entire societies were struck down: bodies everywhere, tools, lodging, structures left intact but virtually no one was around (and many the infected likely fled to more remote lands, worsening the spread).

One estimate is that 61 million people lived in the Americas prior to European contact. Between 1492 and 1600 about 50 million native Americans died of disease.

"Killed?" Yes but rarely intentionally. "Genocide?" No.


You're skipping over the whole "manifest destiny" bit, where the remaining natives were systematically hunted down and destroyed. Trail of Tears ring any bells?

And note this was perpetrated by The United States, not the "American colonists". This was happening in the 1800s, a good 300 years after the initial disease front came through.

If the United States had respected the native populations the American West would look very different today. Compare with current Central and South America for example (which were certainly still victims of both disease and genocide, but it was less thorough due to differences in colonizers and geography).


What are you talking about? the original commenter rejected the idea of a Jewish state because ethno states are bad. I made a counter claim. I’d be happy to live next to a Palestinian country, if it will recognize Israel as a Jewish state, and be a peaceful neighbor. Unfortunately, they reject the idea of 2 states, or they want 2 states where 1 is Palestinian, and the other is paletwith a Jewish minority.


>I’d be happy to live next to a Palestinian country, if it will recognize Israel as a Jewish state,

Not sure i'd be happy to live next to a neighbor illegally occupying my former house.


Are you talking about native Americans? Germans that used to live in Poland? Jews that used to live in Syria? Israelis that lived in Sinai before it was returned to Egypt? Mexicans that lived Texas? Australian aboriginals? Inuits in Canada? How about the one million afghans Iran just expelled?

If you’re not happy, that’s on you. Time moves on, you need to accept the existence of the Israeli state.


> If you’re not happy, that’s on you. Time moves on, you need to accept the existence of the Israeli state.

Fair enough, but what happens when the US (inevitably) decide that they're not going to support Israel anymore. Bibi has basically turned support of Israel into a culture war argument, and without consistent US support, I'm not sure Israel will survive in it's current form.

Mind you, climate change could make the whole Middle East uninhabitable before then, so it's possible that the Israeli state will last until then.

And lets be clear, I don't think most people have an issue with the existence of an Israeli state, but what's been happening in Judea and Samaria for the past twenty or so years and Gaza currently is deeply, deeply wrong and reminds me of my favourite phrase, "the only thing that we learn from history is that nobody learns from history". One would think that the Jewish people would have learned better lessons from their persecution, but apparently they learnt different lessons than I expected.


Well, Israel successfully won several wars without the US support in its early years. And right now the Israeli weapons manufacturers are booming, look at deals with the romania and Germany.

Its great that most people don’t have problem with our existence, but our neighbors do. That’s why we have wars.

And comparing it to the holocaust is quite different, in the entire Jewish history we never seeked to destroy anyone, we were always targeted because of antisemitism. The Palestinians? They are taught in schools that we are the devil.


> we never seeked to destroy anyone

Mmmm, maybe you should read the Bible? Lots of violence committed by the Israelis there.

> comparing it to the holocaust is quite different

Sorry, it's mostly the same (and incredibly similar to Irish history between Catholics and Protestants). Both sides dehumanise each other, and that leads to violence and suffering. How often does Israeli media cover the bombing of Gaza? Like, a lot of the footage didn't appear on most Western media until 12months + into the conflict.

One could also make the argument that what's happening in the West bank/Gaza is basically ghettoization, which was something that happened to the Jews a lot in Western Europe. It's profoundly depressing that all the Jewish people have learned is to inflict this kind of suffering on other people.

And the current plans to basically force all of the Gazans out is again, incredibly similar to historical pogroms and treatment meted out to the Jewish people.


> So thinking Iran will simply nuke Israel because it has that capability is silly - it would mean mutual destruction.

100%. The Iranian regime is not stupid. The "existential threat" bs being peddled by a certain government is simply to give cover to illegal attacks on a sovereign nation. This is "WMDs in Iraq" all over again.


This was Israel's thinking with Hamas - they're deterred, they're comfortable and in charge and they wouldn't do anything to jeopardise that, etc. Israel's thinking was wrong, and they've learned to believe their enemies when they say they want to destroy Israel. There isn't a country in the world that would allow their enemies, who have repeatedly stated that said country's demise is a key goal of theirs, to develop nukes if they have with the capability to stop it.


>[Hamas] they're deterred, they're comfortable and in charge

That's just being deluded, being a in open air prison is different from being a sovereign nation.


I think they are stupid for broadcasting the program and threatening Israel with it.

Believe people when they tell you what they are going to do. Even if Iran wouldn’t use it if they had it, threatening to use it shifts the probability for them using it.

Khomeini isn’t on Kim jong un’s level


They’re not stupid, the believe in an ideology that glorifies martyrs. If you actually believe in martyrdom nuking Israel is the sensible thing to do even knowing you’ll get it right back.


> 100%. The Iranian regime is not stupid.

I'm not sure how can you say that, now that they are dead, completely due to how they positioned themselves on the regional and global landscape.


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