Looking at the amount of wires going into this, my instinct is that this cannot scale, in 5-10 years this won't be doable for a Pentium chip, at least not as an at home hobby project. But I actually think it could go the other way, and in 5-10 years you'll be able to do this at home for far more sophisticated kit, unlocking crazy amounts of reverse engineering possibilities that were once thought of as near impossible, or at least only possible for a nation state scale setup.
I'm pretty sure if you really want to, you could do something like this as a hobbyist with a Pentium right now.
Instead of futzing with wires on a breadboard you could simply designing a PCB up front, throw the design over the fence at JLC or PCBWay, insert coin, wait patiently at the mailbox, solder your scavenged Socket 7 onto the board.
The days of toner transfer and aquarium pumps are already long gone. Getting production quality, one-off, multi layer PCBs done as a hobbyist is dirt cheap these days, no government budgets required.
> you could simply designing a PCB up front, throw the design over the fence at JLC or PCBWay, insert coin, wait patiently at the mailbox
It blows my mind that I can use free-as-in-beer Free-as-in-Speech software to design a PCB, email it to a dude in China, and get a finished working professional-looking PCB back in my hand within a week, for the price of a couple of coffees. And if I want the components stuck on too, it'll cost a little extra, maybe three coffees it costs now.
If I want it really quickly then for the price of a decent takeaway curry I can have it flown over next day. What the actual hell?
Edit: the slowest part of "next day" is when it hits the UK, and if I could guarantee it just gets delivered to DHL's Edinburgh depot I could drive down there in two hours.
The reality is that's just how cheap commodity circuit construction is, and even small shops in the US sometimes approach that low cost, and we've been paying crazy markup on electronics for decades. That dirt cheap board is so profitable it is using air freight to get back to you. It is literally burning money just for convenience, yet that is the "cheap" option.
Electronics cost a lot to manufacture in the 70s, but is entirely automated now but for "reasons" we have only seen a small part of that savings.
When you buy the "Cheap" version on AliExpress, they are still making a healthy margin, yet Americans will happily buy the exact same product off Amazon for next day shipping for 10x the cost and think they are getting a "deal"
This extends to cars as well, with the F150 costing as little as $20k to build, even with "Expensive" very unionized and well compensated labor. The higher market trims only cost a little more to make but take in far higher profit margins. How much of China's supposedly "Subsidized" car price (as if the US doesn't do anything to subsidize cars) is just a lower profit margin?
Things should be way cheaper to western consumers. Where does all that extra money go? "Marketing and administration", basically bloated executive suites, bloated middle management, and the pockets of Meta, Google, AWS, and Apple. Oh gee, those exact companies seem absurdly wealthy and are basically responsible for all economic growth in the past few decades.
> even small shops in the US sometimes approach that low cost
It's ludicrously expensive to ship things to and from the US though, and since they're now paying some insane markup because no-one understands what tariffs are the prices have got even sillier.
It's not impossible that the Aws charges were wrong, it's pretty unheard of.
I don't understand why the details of the charges aren't mentioned in the post.
If you think it's unlikely you could have a $1500 bill because you 'barely use' it then that's just wrong. In the cloud single unoptimised choices can cost thousands if you don't keep an eye on your costs, you need to look at the charges.
I think folks are mis-interpreting the story. To me it sounds like AWS was doing everything fine (and OP agrees), but he wanted to re-negotiate the $1500/month fee because of his under usage (maybe a cheaper tier?), so he sent an email. They didn't respond, so he stopped paying to get their attention and entice them to respond. But, intead of responding, they just terminated his account.
I read it otherwise. This is the smoking gun, to me:
> So I stopped paying. Why keep paying charges I believe are wrong when the company won't discuss them?
That sounds to me like he thought they were mis-billing him, to the tune of $18K per year, not that they were billing him correctly but he wanted a better price.
Seems more of a productivity killer rather than an aid but cats are great marketing. I see no reason not to submit this for YC funding in the next round
I don't want to criticize cloud flare, I love what they do and understand the scale of the challenge, but most people don't and 2 in a month or so like this is going to hit their reputation.
After being overly critical of Matrix the other day on here I have reeled back into another conclusion, is that talent issues are industry wide and it sucks making a bad hire where competence issues arise that don’t match the resume.
I think it's intended as a comparison of cost when building a gaming-capable computer vs. a console of somewhat equivalent power.
It used to be a general rule of thumb that you could build a computer of roughly equivalent power for the cost of a game console, or a little more — now the memory costs more than the whole console.
Thank you for mentioning this. Not knowing the specs of a PS5, I'd assumed that the comparison was made because the PS5 now sold for less than the RAM it contains, and scalpers were now hungrily buying up all available PlayStation inventory just to tear them open and feast on the RAM inside.
But since it's 16 GB, the comparison doesn't really make sense.
It still is a rule of thumb, you dont need DDR5 for a gaming computer let alone 64gb. A low end am4 cpu + 16gb of DD4 3600 and a decent gpu will beat a ps5 in performance and cost. I dont understand why the headline made this strange comparison.
You do have the option to open up Discord voice chats on PS5. Amazing what Discord could do when forced to actually write something efficient.
Youtube also exists as an app, and maybe you can trick the heavily gimped built in browser to go there as well, although last I checked it wasn't trivial.
I can run the spotify electron app, discord and watch youtube on my 2nd monitor perfectly fine with 16gb of DDR3 ram. When I open my game I get better fps than the ps5.
It doesn't help that GPUs have also generally gone up over the past decade because there's more market for them besides gaming, along with how they benefit from being hugely parallel and the larger you can make them the better, and fabrication costs are shooting up. I think there was a GamersNexus video at the launch of one of the previous GPU generations that noted that there was a move from "more for your money" each generation towards "more for more", i.e. keeping the value roughly static and increasing the amount they charged for a more capable product.
Because, unless this changed, consoles are loss-leaders. At least back in the ps2/gamecube/OG Xbox, the systems were sold at a loss and the money was recouped on controllers and games.
Can’t use a ps2 controller to play a ps2 game on a ps2 without the ps2 console.
If this is still true or not, I don’t know. I do know that the ps5 with an optical drive cost $100 more than the digital edition. I also know that the drive does not cost $100 and sincerely doubt the labor makes up the difference.
That's a an analogy-- a literary technique the writer is using, to show the correspondence between the price of a specific amount of DDR5 RAM to a fully integrated system, so the reader can follow the conclusions of their article easier.
We got around this by keeping the same number but swapping the months out. Started dating in August, actually got legally married same month, but the ceremony was in October all of the same day. I used the cheat code of familiarity to never forget.
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