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Are you hiring, or just looking to backseat moderate?


The whoishiring account does the postings automatically, I'm not sure if that is done from YC/HN or through an outsider but it's a good idea to have only one of these threads.

What bugs me is how every comment in this thread is being downvoted.

Edit: it's an outsider but a pretty good setup, see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2391828


Sorry, I didn't know about https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2391828

@Mods, can you please delete this post?


@Mods: or better yet, merge it with the other one when it does it's thing!

Quite a few good posts in here already it would be a waste if they got lost.


This job post is going to confuse everyone today.

Hopefully a mod deletes this Who is Hiring in favour of the regular, organized one.

Kudos to this OP for trolling it.


Let's not go for malice where being uninformed would do.

I'm pretty well informed about all things HN and I had missed the original thread where the whoishiring policy was established.

What would be good is if a title of 'Who is hiring' would automatically trigger a review or if those postings would be limited to the whoishiring account. And even better still if that were an actual HN/YC supported feature.


@jacquesm: Are you the OP of the original hiring post? (as that is the thread I was asking to be deleted).

Also,

>Sorry, I didn't know about https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2391828

>

>@Mods, can you please delete this post?

I find it strange that the OP claims he/she didn't know about the regular monthly posting when he/she got the exact wording correct.

@akh: didn't you pick up on the username of the regular posting?


> @jacquesm: Are you the OP of the original hiring post? (as that is the thread I was asking to be deleted).

No. But I think that to lose it entirely would be a waste. I've mailed the moderators.


Thanks @jacquesm. @phantom_oracle, yes it was my mistake, and that's why I said sorry :)


I looked at the last one, copy-pasted the top bit and posted. Didn't know that we had a whole policy around this thing.


@akh: Well it was probably a mistake. No harm done.

@jacquesm: True, it would. We'll see what happens at 9am EST.


> No harm done.

There is harm:

Maybe not all jobs posted here will be re-posted later. And if the thread is deleted they won't even show up on search.

The best solution would be if who is hiring threads could only be posted by the whoishiring account and this is made official in some way.

More users => more chance of mistakes like these.


I really do believe that HN is poorly designed for end users. The UI is not forward with intent, or pleasurable to use. It's been literally years and the expired link issue hasn't been addressed. ---No, I'll stop you right there. It's been acknowledged as an implementation bug, but not addressed. PG's lack of user empathy and stubbornness make HN worse.

The only reason people come here is the content.


The only reason people come here is the content.

I consider this a good thing. It attracts the right kind of people.


Are you insinuating that the key to dissuading the wrong kind of people is to make Hacker News difficult to use? The notion that good users will "power through" a bad design is dubious at best.

I hope that you're not involved in product design. This thought process is not good for anyone.


I make no apologies for my opinion, however much you dislike it.

I've maintained for years that the key to a high quality online forum is for it to be limited in some way. It can be limited by bugs. Limited by nobody advertising that it exists. Limited by having a very focused topic of discussion. I'm willing to believe that it can be limited by moderation, but I self-select out of those forums so don't know.

But without some sort of limiting you get what happened to Usenet, Slashdot, kuro5hin, the main page of Reddit, and so on. Which is that they became the place that everyone knew that they should go. And then the noise went up faster than the signal, resulting in a poor signal to noise ratio. And then the best people found new forums to go to, and slowly disappeared.

Of course if you make the limiting TOO effective, eventually nobody will be left. There is a balance to be had.

And this only applies to high quality content of the kind that I want to engage with. Which is admittedly not to everyone's taste. It is not a way to make something popular.


Uhhh higher more developers to get features out?

I thought that was the whole point of making the organization in the first place.


Well, they are getting features out. They need to pass some tests, but the amount of features that are made on a daily level is quite large:

This features added aggregated on a weekly level http://firefoxnightly.tumblr.com/


I personally find reading HN on a mobile device really frustrating. Horizontal scrolling is awkward and navigating between comments is frustrating. HN isn't winning any awards for UX.

I really do believe that HN is poorly designed for end users. The UI is not forward with intent, or pleasurable to use. It's been literally years and the expired link issue hasn't been addressed. ---No, I'll stop you right there. It's been acknowledged as an implementation bug, but not addressed. PG's lack of user empathy and stubbornness make HN worse.

The only reason people come here is the content.


* The author is not perfect.

* You are not perfect.

* You missed the point of the article entirely.

* You responded to this story just to be smug.

* You are very rude.


Actually, you're the one who missed the point entirely (of my comment). I'm questioning the factual accuracy of an article in which the author claims to have gotten an A in his AP English class the senior year of high school, despite the fact that he still can't spell the word "straight" correctly. Either he's lying, or his teacher had very low standards. The former is much more likely.

I also question his interest in writing correctly, as all he would have had to do was to paste his article into Word and it would have told him that he was spelling "straight" incorrectly. The fact that he didn't even bother to do that is an even bigger concern.

There's also the fact that, rather than bothering to come up with a proper response to my initial point, you decided to attack me by calling me "very rude" and making (incorrect) assumptions about why I responded to this article. That also makes you very difficult to take seriously. Don't bother to respond until you can do so in a civilized tone.


Just going to go ahead and say it, strait is a word as is straight. The article was titled "Please Excuse my Grammar" and misusing a word is a grammar (not spelling mistake). That also seems to be part of the point of the article, did you read the last line?

The author wanted to misuse grammar to bring attention to the fact that the education system doesn't support learning. Instead the system labels individuals and attempts to keep them in those labels, rather than helping them improve.


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