This hasn't been a remotely reasonable characterization of math since at least Hilbert's time.

I think Hardy would be very much on the same page with me, as well as Godel and many others. Mathematical truths exist independently from our feelings and processes to discover them. People do and should argue about which truths are interesting to pursue and refine, but all of them are out there to be discovered... or not.

Whatever philosophy you prefer, math is about establishing objectively valid logical results, completely independent of the human process used to arrive at them.

Axioms don't exist independently from our feelings and processes, we pick axioms we feel are good, and axioms defines mathematics.

Mathematicians even argue which axioms we should have, it isn't objective in the slightest, mathematics is therefore very closely linked to our feelings and intuition. Remove that and you just have formal logic, a very different field.

Is formal (aka "mathematical") logic part of mathematics? Now that's a philosophical question.

From my perspective, I feel you restated what I said with the opposite conclusion. You say that axioms "defines" mathematics. If I were Claude, I'd say that the word "define" is doing a lot of work, is load bearing or something like that.

"Define" is where we turn these axioms into consequences - what I call "truth". As opposed to all the other stuff people could say that don't follow from these axioms. These are nonsense and, most certainly, un-mathematical.

Writing that mathematics is a waste is such a hilariously ignorant comment to make on a programming forum.

You’re definitely happily collecting the proceeds of those sins, though, I’m sure.

Most Americans came here after slavery ended, so no they’re not. If you can trace the “proceeds” of slavery anywhere, it’s not the pocket of some Polish guy whose parents got here in 1920, or some German American from the Midwest or some Appalachian. It’s to places like Harvard and the banks, insurance companies, etc., that Harvard graduates end up working at.

The Chicago suburb that I live in right now was debating a quota system to prevent Black families from moving here within my own lifetime, and was until the late 1990s spending tax dollars to subsidize apartments being held vacant for white families. The harm these programs attempt to correct wasn't in the distant past.

But what benefit are you deriving from that?

I can answer this, but first I want to understand better why it matters. It's deliberate, de jure harm inflicted on Black families regardless of the purported and actual benefits to white homeowners.

Because the original statement was that white people are gaining advantage because of the sins of our fathers. Most of us remember our lives and know this is not true, unless you think growing up poor with parents that couldn’t even afford school for their kids is an advantage.

We can say that for just about everyone though.

being a veteran who swore they’re life, lol no. not a chance.

Were we living in the same city? There were multiple heatwaves in the time I lived there, one so severe that Noe Valley got to 107.

And this isn’t to mention the wildfires or inevitable water issues.

Apparently not because these are the hottest days in sf history:

1. September 1, 2017 – 106 degrees T-2. June 14, 2000 – 103 degrees T-2. July 17, 1988 – 103 degrees T-4. September 2, 2017 – 102 degrees T-4. October 5, 1987 – 102 degrees T-6. September 14, 1971 – 101 degrees T-6. May 30, 2001 – 101 degrees T-6. June 14, 1961 – 101 degrees T-6. September 16, 1913 – 101 degrees T-6. September 8, 1904 – 101 degrees T-11. October 4, 1987 – 100 degrees T-11. September 8, 1984 – 100 degrees

9 of the next 10 days in Dallas would be on that list. 3 days from last year in Seattle would be in the top 5 days on that list.

We are comparable to the extremes of a coastal eastern city, with significantly lower temperatures between the peaks. There’s not many places in the US that have never seen 106.

As for water, 80%+ of it in California is used for food that is exported elsewhere.

Strawberries in December in New York are much more at risk than humans in CA.

As for fires, nowhere in the world is safe from that, as this summer is proving.

Good thing all those roads aren’t planned, built, and maintained by the government!

The "Libertarians are like house cats" meme comes to mind

The liabilities are the same currency and the same amount in 2023 and 2033. They’re solvent.

The asterisk is that the liabilities are generating interest, but this is fine because (one very safely assumes) that’s covered by the interest on the long-duration assets SVB bought.

Interest rates have risen since those long-duration assets were purchased.

Depositors now expect higher interest rates which cannot be covered by those assets. They will withdraw their deposits and move them to a bank that can offer higher interest rates.

right, which is why this is a liquidity problem and not a solvency one. The assets cover the liabilities--you just have to wait ten years or whatever.

No.

Those are short term liabilities. The ability of depositors to withdraw their funds is part of the liability.

If the bank wanted to raise long term deposits it would have had to pay much higher interest rates.

Once they withdraw the bank can not raise additional funds because all other depositors have better interest rates in other banks.

No amount of time will cure this situation, the values of those bonds will not recover. This is not some temporary panic.

The only way for the situation to improve is if interest rates go down in the short term. Unless that happens, the bank remain insolvent.

No their bounds are worth fundamentally less than they paid for them.

There is a continuum in how quickly you need to sell and the price you willmget for something.

Once-in-a-century weather patterns happening multiple times per decade, that sort of thing.

That would make sense for climate change, but the context of this thread is a discussion about AI. Why would that be evidence of an existential threat from AI?

what I think they mean is; there are bigger tigers, and they're already in the house.

no sense wasting time stressing out about the cub at the zoo.

I do at least carry hope that climate change will have survivors in all but the worst-case scenarios. And I'm not sure which tiger will strike first.

> I find that especially important because to every appearance we are a machine learning algorithm.

Speak for yourself.

You might wanna check out some of jason hickel’s writings in the topic. As someone from such a “place with a lot of poverty” I’ve always chafed at the idea that capitalism (and thus colonialism) led to an improvement in living conditions, when really it meant mostly murder and looting.

Capitalism and colonialism aren't the same thing. Yes, capitalism can include exploitation. So can any system. But the world thankfully has moved beyond colonialism. And capitalism as an economic system has greatly improved standards of living in many parts of the world such as Asia since then.