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I googled to find out who Dale is, and saw that he issued an apology over Twitter and linked to the open note on Makezine: https://makezine.com/2017/11/06/open-note-to-naomi-wu/


I also found this apology to be pretty weak sauce. Obviously the damage can't be undone, but why not take a stab at trying? He owes it to this person, after all.

Things I dislike:

- The actual apology is one sentence long

- He doesn't state what he did wrong

- He doesn't acknowledge the harm he has caused

- It's not clear he's learned anything from this event

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/how-be-grown/201206/how...


This piece on the apology includes a response from Ms. Wu making similar points: https://thenextweb.com/asia/2017/11/07/make-magazine-founder...


It would be nice if he expanded on the "valuable lesson" he learned so it didn't feel like handwringing to save face.


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We've already asked you not to troll, so could you please stop? The difference between trolling and discussing is whether or not you've met the bar of information over provocation.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I was giving my perhaps cynical take on the question, but it was not trolling or attempting to be provocative.

I work in a biG tech company and have seen first hand people be bullied, shunned, and placed on informal 'do-not-work-with' lists by managers not just for holding disgusting views, but also for holding not-quite-Liberal-enough views. Also, holding views which are okay to express generally, but wrong to express more specifically about a single class(say, women).

This controversy would not be happening if a random fat dude was accused of faking building things. It's only because this story includes a female, and therefore ties into some subset of society's obsession with gender and race issues that we are discussing this.


This is addressed in the article; see the part saying

> Although Dale had issued a public apology about the rumors, the apology fixes her reputation as much as saying “sorry” repairs a vase smashed on the floor.

The article generally discusses why this situation is asymmetric, and the power dynamics at play.


He's using his self-initiated shitstorm to advertise his site and event.




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