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Really? Which parts of that apply to any western country? The US (where I live) certainly has its problems, but none of the things described by the original comment apply widely in the US.


The surveillance of citizens and credit scores don't apply to the US?

Or the obscene ballooning of rents without a corresponding increase in wage?

Absurd overtime expectations?


> The surveillance of citizens and credit scores don't apply to the US?

Strawman. Your credit score won't legally lock you out of being able to fly in the US and is not a government punishment enforced through violence. Surveillance in the US is not similar to the extreme oppression occurring in China and the almost complete lack of freedom of speech, freedom of demonstration, freedom of religion, freedom of expression, and freedom of press. This HN forum can't exist in China.

> Absurd overtime expectations?

Nope. The US works about as many hours as New Zealand, which is not infamous for very punishing work hours. It sits at the OECD average and is comparable to Italy and Canada.

> Or the obscene ballooning of rents without a corresponding increase in wage?

Non-qualified setup. That entirely depends on where you live and what your job is. If you're trying to be a janitor in San Francisco, you have a problem. Most of the US is not in fact outrageously expensive, it's quite reasonable.


Spot on. US introduced credit scores even before China.




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