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IllogicalLogic, these discussions have more value when we focus on the topic at hand, not devolve into whataboutism. Your comparison is both a mischaracterization and off-topic.


I don't see any mischaracterization since Five Eyes was for exactly the same purpose.


Not whataboutism, if the case can be made that 350 million people need protection then the case can more easily be made for 1.3 billion people.

Wikileaks also showed us that US agencies were engaged in industrial espionage, stealing German/French industrial technology using the Five Eyes tools and giving it to GE & friends ...

The problem is, my more "reality-based" framing destroys the "China is uniquely evil" narrative that western media/gov is pushing everywhere for primarily economic reasons.




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