I see there's been (at least some) downvoting of this comment, but it's not irrelevant. Pointing out that other companies have the same problem doesn't give Apple a "get out of criticism free" card, but it's worth keeping in mind that Apple gets singled out for this kind of criticism in part because they promote their efforts to be better than the norm in this regard, which invites a more critical eye.

Every time I post that link it gets downvoted. Yet every time I post it, it's in response to someone implying Apple is uniquely evil. I certainly don't feel they deserve a pass, but it's such a ubiquitous problem that it's almost pointless to use as a talking point. (It's like saying Politician X is inherently bad because they accept corporate money)

> implying Apple is uniquely evil.

It's not that they're uniquely evil, rather that they don't have the moral authority to lecture.

Who are they lecturing on what?

App developers on what names are 'inappropriate', if you will.

I see that they made a commercial decision. I don’t see any moralizing or lecturing.

Is there somewhere they are saying the name is morally wrong?

> Is there somewhere they are saying the name is morally wrong?

Literally that wording? No.

But that's the same as a politician doing favors for their biggest donor and then pretending there's no pay to play here since you didn't literally see him taking piles of banknotes in a smoke filled back room. Come on.

> they made a commercial decision

Yes but why? Because according to them it promotes objectionable items/behavior - that's a moral decision, it is also a commercial one but based on a moral judgment.

A commercial decision is not a class on its own. It is taken based on some factors. What were the factors here if not that Apple finds the name/icon morally questionable?

I am mad at all of them for their labor practices. Even if I wasn't, one company doing something nefarious isn't vindicated because others are doing same.

Are they ‘doing something nefarious’?

At what point did they become aware that forced labor was being used, and what are they trying to do to change the situation?

If you don’t know the answer to these questions, it seems unclear that they are ‘doing something nefarious’.

I think doing business in China inevitably creates exposure to these problems.

I think people knew China had problems like this when they started investing there.

However I don’t think anyone anticipated China getting worse in this way.

I agree; it just seems to me the discussion is framed in such a way to paint Apple as being uniquely evil in this regard.

I don’t see anyone complaining about Occulus, Google or Microsoft’s labor practices on threads about them.

Perhaps that will change if people read this list.