Discrimination against the unvaccinated is justified, morally and scientifically. Public health policy should be made, and was made, based on good data.
The data shows the opposite: the places with vaccine mandates achieved lower vaccination rates among elderly (most of Europe) than places without them (UK).
The data shows that the greatest benefit from vaccination was to elderly and risk groups and not to healthy young people. Vaccine mandates increased vaccine uptake in less-at-risk groups but did not help to ensure vaccination of elderly people.
Third issue is that vaccination did not prevent spread. Even in Canada the data shows that at the end of 2021 covid spread equally among vaccinated and unvaccinated populations. Vaccination was good for personal benefit and should have been popularised as such but it didn't meaningfully limit the spread and the restrictions on unvaccinated were not justified.
I don't think that vaccine mandates had a significant impact on hospitalization rates.
The most people getting hospitalized will be elderly. I already mentioned that vaccine mandates did not significantly increased vaccinate uptake among them. Canada and Australia received high vaccination rates among elderly but so did the UK, so there was no need to push for vaccine mandates. China which is practically a totalitarian country also had low vaccination rates among elderly.
Disingenuous is a hard thing to say when governments kept changing the goal posts, and the poster you were responding to talked about multiple governments.
Either way, discrimination is wrong. And if we’re following the science, then those who recovered from Covid didn’t need to be vaccinated, so discriminating against them isn’t scientific. It’s a prejudice
The antivax friends I know are mostly victims of disinformation. They usually lack the skills to judge between science fact and fiction: untrained, or perhaps just average humans at failing to grok cause and effect. They are usually mistrustful of authority, often due to being on the receiving end of poor information, lies, and misdirection from government and world organisations. They can give examples where they believe that they have been deceived in the past. Somehow scepticism is valid when it is our geek heroes, but invalid when it is an average person failing to invest the time to learn all the disciplines required to judge whether the science and politics of Covid are good or bad. Scepticism can be sanitary, or it can be an overactive memetic immune system of the mind.
Discrimination against the unvaccinated is justified, morally and scientifically Your statement is equivalent to me as if you wrote “Discrimination against the disabled is justified, morally and scientifically” or “Discrimination against the below average IQ is justified, morally and scientifically”.
PS: I see engineers make the same category of error, just in different subjects that they are unfamiliar with.
