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ZITADEL Co-Founder here.

Thank you for the nice words you describe well what we try to achieve!

With ZITADEL we aspire to become the best of Auth0 and Keycloak in more modern package. Or in other words are a end-to-end open source identity infrastructure. I know this sounds a little unspecific but our goals are:

1) Have AuthN/AuthZ, Login, SSO as Turnkey features but also allow people to build their own UIs

2) Have an audit trail that allows people to see all changes ever made

3) Give devs the ability to extend zitadel with custom code (actions)

4) Support well given standards (OIDC/Oauth/SAML/LDAP) with certification if possible

5) Be ease to operate and scale

6) Provide APIs for everything ;-)

Btw. its always nice to see other projects to solve problems in the identity space. To me it feels like Obligator can, at the moment, be best compared to Dex since it feels a lot like a façade service that has little user management capabilities (not that this is a bad thing) but wraps them for easier usage in multiple services. But please take this observation with a lot of salt since I have not used or tinkered with Obligator.

Cheers Florian



The race really does seem to be between ZITADEL and Ory for the next generation of OIDC servers. Any chance of sqlite support in the future?


I think both products could even coexist ;-)

SQLlite would be super nice, but we lack engineering capacity right now to get that done.


> I think both products could even coexist

Fair enough, but developers and sysadmins don't want to choose between two great options. They want one obvious best option and a second option that is good enough and can be made better if option one turns evil.


Sure, there needs to be a „de facto“ OSS player in the space. Let me tell you that is what we definitely aspire to become.

I always think there was not yet the „gitlab“ effect in the identity space.


Gitlab is a great example of what I'm saying. Few use it today but that's probably where we would all go. You know, because we never actually learn the lessons of centralization.




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