All GDP hollywood-accounting aside, the reason why they went up to public debt of 70% was because the nanny state was spending too much. I know it's hard to understand for socialo-commies, but it's a fact.
Contrarily to France, they realized it and worked hard to reduce the public debt and it worked.
Yes, cut in pensions for older people do suck. But it works. It allows the nanny state to be a bit less of a nanny state and hence to escape from the public debt trap.
I'm not disagreeing with you that health-care and infrastructure shouldn't be run for profit. But then comes the problem of... COST!
Where do you draw the line? Socialo-commies are always going to use intellectual terrorism like: "What, you don't want to contribute $X so that grandmas have their life expectancy probability augmented a bit?"
But it makes no sense. Let me tell you: what if, for 1 000 000 000 000 $ per person I can create a better healthcare system. Are you going to allow me to do it?
No, because there wouldn't be any economy anymore. It wouldn't work.
So I return your your argument: you sebcat insensitive clod, how comes you're not willing to spend $ 1 000 000 000 000 per person per year so that everyone has a better health-care, you really have no heart!?
So any discussion about "health-care" is pointless: it's not about no health-care at all or a super-good healthcare. The question is which % of the GDP can be used to provide with level of health-care without ruining the entire economy.
And that's the big problem of the socialo-commies and their nanny states: they cannot count. It's all words and intellectual terrorism.
But as soon as you use their own arguments against themselves, they're dodging the question.
Now every single time I discuss with a socialo-commie I use that $1 000 000 000 per person per year example and I ask him if it's sustainable or not. And he says no. So I tell him he really has no heart and he's a bad person for letting all these grandmas die.
And then the expression on their face are priceless because their entire belief system is shred to pieces.
Is your belief system shred to pieces when you learn that the US spends twice the percentage of GDP on health care as nations like France with worse health outcomes?
Contrarily to France, they realized it and worked hard to reduce the public debt and it worked.
Yes, cut in pensions for older people do suck. But it works. It allows the nanny state to be a bit less of a nanny state and hence to escape from the public debt trap.
I'm not disagreeing with you that health-care and infrastructure shouldn't be run for profit. But then comes the problem of... COST!
Where do you draw the line? Socialo-commies are always going to use intellectual terrorism like: "What, you don't want to contribute $X so that grandmas have their life expectancy probability augmented a bit?"
But it makes no sense. Let me tell you: what if, for 1 000 000 000 000 $ per person I can create a better healthcare system. Are you going to allow me to do it?
No, because there wouldn't be any economy anymore. It wouldn't work.
So I return your your argument: you sebcat insensitive clod, how comes you're not willing to spend $ 1 000 000 000 000 per person per year so that everyone has a better health-care, you really have no heart!?
So any discussion about "health-care" is pointless: it's not about no health-care at all or a super-good healthcare. The question is which % of the GDP can be used to provide with level of health-care without ruining the entire economy.
And that's the big problem of the socialo-commies and their nanny states: they cannot count. It's all words and intellectual terrorism.
But as soon as you use their own arguments against themselves, they're dodging the question.
Now every single time I discuss with a socialo-commie I use that $1 000 000 000 per person per year example and I ask him if it's sustainable or not. And he says no. So I tell him he really has no heart and he's a bad person for letting all these grandmas die.
And then the expression on their face are priceless because their entire belief system is shred to pieces.