Fine, don't use Clojure. Myself, I'll get stuff done, and not whine about the fa...

michaelneale · on June 26, 2009

It is interesting, how if someone doesn't like something they seem to see it as their mission to make sure no one else uses it? (or it appears that way, what I think it really means is self promotion, and its easier to tear down then build up when building your profile in public).

zcrar70 · on June 26, 2009

they seem to see it as their mission to make sure no one else uses it

I don't think they necessarily do - they're just saying what they think, but then other people read it and get annoyed (justifiably.)

That's the thing with blogs, the entire world can hear your opinion, and sometimes it would have been better if they didn't.

michaelneale · on June 27, 2009

hahahah - yes, so true.

Actually in this article, when I re-read it, I think it is written in a sort of ironic/fun tone.

Although I love clojure, I understand the disappointment in not being "lisp all the way down" - there is something satisfying about the purity of that approach, if it is practical. Maybe one day...

pwncat · on June 27, 2009

(or (with? you lisp) (against? you lisp))

I'm kidding.

arohner · on June 27, 2009

I've been writing Clojure full time for the last few weeks, I didn't even slow down to parse that sentence. :-)

pwncat · on June 27, 2009

Same here.

I think it's a great language. As much as I value purity from an academic standpoint, I also need to eat. I'd rather see a 90%-pure Lisp that I can get a job in than a 100%-pure Lisp that I can't.

Moreover, I think Clojure will get more Lispy, rather than less, over time. In 2015, I think far fewer people will be programming in Java full-time, and the JVM will be optimized as a VM to support higher-level languages rather than to support Java as a primary language.