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Given that Broadcom originally designed the BCM2835 for smartphones, this could be said to be an actual "intended application" of the SoC. :)

$15 for a 2.5Ah battery is rather overpriced, however - as are the rest of the components like the screen and DC-DC. I found the SIM900 on eBay for $15, the DC-DC for $1.50, and ~ $5 for a battery of similar capacity. He could've put the whole thing together for <$100. Having done some electronics sourcing in China really changes your perspective on cost... amusingly enough, there was actually an iPhone 3G clone a few years ago called the PiPhone.

It's an interesting project but practically speaking $100 (no contract) can already buy a pretty good smartphone these days... and one with a more "unofficially open" SoC too.

The antenna sticking out of it is the best part.



Having done some electronics sourcing in China really changes your perspective on cost

Do you have any tips on doing this? Other than alibaba?


I've used http://www.dx.com quite a bit. Prices are really, really low. Shipping is free. However, you may have to wait two months for your products to arrive.

Since most of this stuff is based off of open source hardware it's pretty much identical to the name brand stuff. So it pretty much comes down to a cost/time ratio consideration when first starting out. Before you know it though, you will have quite a large collection of parts built up.

Also remember you can hit garage sales, recycle yards, and thrift shops to find a lot of old hardware that you can salvage valuable parts out of for less than the price of the parts themselves.

Edit: made link clickable


Having ordered lot's of cheap prototype/evaluation boards through dx.com/ebay/aliexpress.com, I can say for sure, that quality does differ.

Seed and co have higher standards for soldering/reflow quality, wheras random factory churns out boards, probably even not doing any sort of testing apart of "hmm, looks connected".

That being said, most of the stuff still works fine despite shobby soldering and cheapest parts they could get at the market that week.


As someone who has built an MP3 player with the RPi, I can tell you that the RPi is NOT made to run of a battery.

http://pepijndevos.nl/2013/11/21/raspberry-pi-mp3-player.htm...

The 2200Mah battery will only last a couple of hours.


The network / usb chip takes quite a bit of power relatively, so the model A could last a bit longer on the 2200ah battery


   "It's an interesting project but practically speaking $100 (no contract) can already buy a pretty good smartphone these days... and one with a more "unofficially open" SoC too."
Does that smartphone with a "more unofficially open" SoC boot from SD card?

Is it OS agnostic?

I would actually be willing to pay more than the going rate for a "smartphone" that that allowed me to use my own bootloader and my own choice of OS, and one with no ties to search engine ad sales companies or the like.

I just want a handheld computer with a decent enclosure and which can be controlled with time-tested, open source drivers.

It does not need to have impressive specs, just a small form factor and easy to control with any open source OS.

If it can make phone calls, all the better.



As soon as they have something that boots BSD, where starting the graphics layer is optional and it has decent networking, I will definitely purchase one of these. I wouldn't mind a little FORTH, too.

Godspeed, OpenMoko.


NetBSD and FreeBSD were already ported to Neo Freerunner few years ago, and you actually don't have to start the graphics layer on any OS. You can also already use whatever programming language you like, it runs just a standard operating systems like your desktop do, just compiled to different cpu arch (arm).

If there's any BSD running on OMAP3 boards like BeagleBoard, then running it on Neo900 will be trivial and you can do it by yourself. Any documentation needed for more specific support will be public, so you can do that by yourself as well.

also, Openmoko is long in the past. Long live OpenPhoenux! :)


Yes, this is a good suggestion. Time will tell. I prefer BSD and this is potentially a candidate.

For now, I'm investing my time in my RPi.


RPi doesn't allow you to use your own bootloader. You cannot even start it without closed blob, so it's in contradiction to your previous requirements.


(First stage bootloader)

Yes, I know that.

I have yet to find a device that meets all my requirements (some of which I did not mention).

In RPI's favor I will say that 1. it is not "in development" but is "on sale" and 2. it does not come with Linux preinstalled. Letting users choose their own OS and not limiting the choices is a start in the right direction. There is of course further to go. Alas, it does not stop at the bootloader.

So, where do you recommend purchasing the device(s) you mentioned when they eventually go on sale?


Neo900 probably won't come with any OS preinstalled, maybe except some Debian based BSP which you'll be encouraged to replace with OS of your choice, as it won't be supposed to be actively used - it will be there for easy testing if all hardware works as it should.

It is a small project with very small target audience (currently about 350), so it won't be built to shelf, as there's simply not enough money to do that; therefore if you eventually want it you should express your interest now by donating at least 100 EUR, so you'll be counted on component sourcing. Donation will act as a rebate on the price of the device when it's out (in few months). More details: http://neo900.org/#donate

Where to buy? Straight from its manufacturer, of course.

There's also GTA04 - http://gta04.org/ - which is already out for few years, but now it's unfortunately hardly obtainable and it seems like there's not enough interest from customers to do next production batch (well, most of potential customers probably were stolen by Neo900 :P). Neo900 is based on GTA04 and produced by the same company.

And of course there's also old good Openmoko Neo Freerunner, which despite of being massively underpowered, meets all requirements you mentioned. It should be still available at some retailers, like Golden Delicious Computers, Pulster or IDA Systems.

Also, you might want to look at MIPS-based Qi-Hardware Ben NanoNote. It's not a phone, but it also meets your requirements and it's available (though supplies seem to be near end, so you better hurry if you decide that you want it. AFAIK Pulster and IDA Systems still have it, but you can count remaining units with hand). I don't know if someone launched any BSD on it, but I can't see why it shouldn't be possible.

So, to make it clear, every device I mentioned so far in all my comments, except Neo900, already went on sale. With Neo900 it's a matter of few months.

From future devices also worth noting, there's DragonBox Pyra, an OpenPandora successor, which will also provide optional modem (the same like in Neo900 btw - those two are actually sister projects, sharing some developers).

The only thing Raspberry Pi is better than any of those devices is price, but when you'll count money and time spent on making Raspberry Pi an acceptable option when operating on battery, this probably won't be true anymore.




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