Me too, for the most part. I'd always ask for the "out the door" all-cash price, all taxes and fees included.
Two dealerships wasted my time by revealing more fees after I'd already driven out, but that was fine because there was another dealership with the same offer, and they stood by it.
Buying used, it seems like cars bought directly from the owner can be had for about $3k less. It costs dealerships a lot to inspect, clean, and warehouse cars, plus pay all their high pressure salesmen.
Two dealerships wasted my time by revealing more fees after I'd already driven out, but that was fine because there was another dealership with the same offer, and they stood by it.
Buying used, it seems like cars bought directly from the owner can be had for about $3k less. It costs dealerships a lot to inspect, clean, and warehouse cars, plus pay all their high pressure salesmen.